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| ehmry | ACTION just received his beta | 11:30 |
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| mntmn | ehmry: nice!! | 15:39 |
| mntmn | ehmry: how is it without keycap lettering? | 15:39 |
| ehmry | mntmn: I think it looks great, but I can hardly type with qwerty anymore, so right now I'm trying to bootstrap nixos over ssh | 15:41 |
| mntmn | ehmry: ah ok. which layout do you normally use? | 15:41 |
| ehmry | workman, the its the hipster dvorak | 15:41 |
| mntmn | ah cool | 15:42 |
| ehmry | unfortunately I'm in home-quarantine with a tiny data cap, so the reform is on the other side of town and I'm filling it up with everything I need remotely :/ | 15:47 |
| ehmry | but the seems to be a clear path to installing nixos to nvme from the debian sdcard | 15:53 |
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| mntmn | ehmry: i have some instructions for how to install a system to nvme if you need | 16:21 |
| mntmn | ehmry: make sure to clone the reform-system-image repo and run mkuboot.sh once | 16:22 |
| ehmry | I'm looking at refrom-system-image now | 16:22 |
| mntmn | ehmry: then you get a copy of the custom uboot where you can change (compile in) different boot / kernel args | 16:22 |
| ehmry | right | 16:22 |
| mntmn | because saving the uboot env doesn't work currently (need to fix it), i just compile it in | 16:23 |
| mntmn | ehmry: anyway i think currently you will have to load the kernel from emmc or sd, there's no nvme support in that uboot i think | 16:24 |
| mntmn | ehmry: but your rootfs can be on nvme | 16:24 |
| ehmry | ok | 16:27 |
| mntmn | ehmry: i personally have a LUKS encrypted rootfs on my nvme. i have a little init script that runs from the sd and then chroots over. | 16:28 |
| mntmn | (after unlocking) | 16:28 |
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| jackhill | can uboot chainload grub? | 17:20 |
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| mntmn | jackhill: what's the use case? | 19:12 |
| + debacle (3a8a2df271@149-210-220-39.colo.transip.net) | 20:18 | |
| jackhill | mntmn: less fighting with my OS's default of managing kernel and boot config on the same filesystem with all the software. uboot, could load grub, which would know how to read the rest of the stuff fom nvme. | 21:05 |
| jackhill | just brainstorming from the discussion earlier. I don't think copying to sdcard or emmc is the end of the world, but if it can be avoided, why not? :) | 21:07 |
| mntmn | jackhill: that is not the reason though. imx8m just can't boot directly from nvme | 21:10 |
| mntmn | u-boot could totally load the kernel from your distro. but there is no distro yet that would support the hardware directly on a kernel level | 21:10 |
| jackhill | oh! Clearly I have a lot to learn about the boot process :) | 21:11 |
| mntmn | you could basically put your /boot on emmc, but you would still need distro support for reform. | 21:11 |
| jackhill | so that means it's a linux limitation? | 21:12 |
| swivel | distros tend to have a formalized process to build a custom kernel and still have it managed by the distro in terms of grub integration and initrd regen etc | 21:13 |
| jackhill | in other news, I'm super excited about Reform, but the wifi card in my current computer let out the magic smoke, and I can't replace it with the one I have on hand because the (non-free) firmware disallows it. I can't wait for a computer that I can control. | 21:22 |
| + ehmry (~quassel@2a03:3b40:fe:ab::1) | 21:47 | |
| gcc-addict | jackhill: depends on the card, but sometimes you're able to overwrite the card firmware and have it report a false PCI ID; all the laptops I've seen so far control the wifi cards based only on that - you still would need to override the driver used for that card, but I had some success changing cards using this trick | 21:49 |
| jackhill | gcc-addict: thanks for the tip! | 21:51 |
| gcc-addict | https://web.archive.org/web/20071016063645/http://www.dagarlas.org/stuff/computing/article0001.php | 21:51 |
| jackhill | as it turns out, I'm in the USA, and don't really leave the house anymore, so Ethernet works fine for now! | 21:52 |
| gcc-addict | jackhill: another way would be to use an expresscard to minipcie adapter, if the laptop supports that :P | 21:57 |
| jackhill | it deosn't, but it does have USB. I'll just save the pcie card for my Reform. | 21:58 |
| jackhill | and i have a usb adaptor for now for when I want to compute from the couch | 21:59 |
| jackhill | it's ancient and requires non-free firmware too, but does the job | 22:00 |
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