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| mntmn | pkill9: not sure yet | 05:10 |
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| mntmn | chomwitt: it’s a 200 pin SO-DIMM | 05:10 |
| mntmn | i will make a kicad template for SOMs soon | 05:10 |
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| rottensox | why does the laptop have just the same SoC as a smartphone (Librem 5)? | 10:12 |
| Jookia | rottensox: it's a powerful soc and good for laptop use | 10:14 |
| Jookia | I'd be wondering why the Librem 5 uses the i.MX8 given how much power it goes through | 10:16 |
| rottensox | no idea. when showing the version 2 of the laptop MNT showcased in that blog post there was a comment that said it is not powerful at all, and would be the equivalent of a chromebook. read: just browsing and basic activities on it; not too powerful. | 10:17 |
| rottensox | hardware is not my area of expertise so gotta rely on what others may have to say about things i look into... | 10:18 |
| Jookia | It depends on what you're doing | 10:18 |
| erlehmann | i played minetest on the reform 1 with i.mx6 | 10:26 |
| erlehmann | rottensox, a >10 year old thinkpad is powerful enough to watch youtube and do everyday stuff, so i wonder what you have in mind? | 10:26 |
| rottensox | besides ircing, browsing, e-mail and other instant messaging applications, plus of course streaming services like youtube or soundcloud i do not do much else. | 10:43 |
| rottensox | then again, hardware is not my area of expertise yet the argument of it having the same SoC as the smartphone mentioned gives a bit of doubt... | 10:44 |
| rottensox | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 10:44 |
| erlehmann | rottensox, the only thing that was a problem on reform 1 was video playback, since it would stutter every few frames if one tried to use all 4 cores. but i guess that was an mplayer misconfiguration – with one core it worked without stuttering. | 11:26 |
| erlehmann | like, really high resolution video playback | 11:26 |
| erlehmann | on reform 2 i think there may still be issues with the graphics drivers with transparent textures in games (e.g. minetest), mntmn can elaborate on that. i am confident it will be fixed. | 11:27 |
| mntmn | rottensox: the imx8m is not designed for smartphones at all | 11:36 |
| mntmn | rottensox: purism using it for librem5 is kind of a stunt, but i’m happy they do it because there are a lot of synergies in driver development | 11:36 |
| mntmn | multiple teams working with the same chip on improving open source drivers and software = everyone benefits | 11:37 |
| mntmn | imx8m, while powerful enough for many daily tasks, is only the first step. reform is designed to have an upgradable CPU | 11:39 |
| rottensox | noted. i'm really happy to have joined the channel. currently have a mountain laptop & based thinkpad t430. | 12:19 |
| rottensox | https://www.mountain.es/ | 12:19 |
| rottensox | of course the mountain isn't as floss but the thinkpad has an anthergos wifi card and runs Fedora with a good ssd encrypted by default. in the future i'd like to explore FLOSS-friendly options such as pine64 or mnt... | 12:20 |
| erlehmann | rottensox, i don't speak spanish, what is the special thing about the mountain? | 12:23 |
| rottensox | erlehmann: they are very robust but quite pricey unfortunately. i've dropped this baby a handful of times and none of its parts have broken besides some hinges being loose. | 12:24 |
| rottensox | back in the days when i was first falling down the linux rabbit hole few users in a forum were talking about it and i had the opportunity of grabbing one myself. got it in 2014. it's 2020 and i haven't replaced anything, not even cleaned with compressed air. of course it is overdue for me to do that, but again, i'm just a lurking n00b. :-D | 12:26 |
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| chomwitt | thanks. but isnt sodimm a dram memomy factor also? is there a connection? | 21:56 |
| mntmn | chomwitt: yep, it’s used for memory normally. but with a different pinout. | 22:14 |
| pkill9 | are there any plans for what CPU can be upgraded to later? | 22:15 |
| mntmn | pkill9: there are a number of interesting chips. nothing has been decided yet, but candidates are: i.MX8M Plus, i.MX9, ZYNQ UltraScale, CORE-V Chassis, Layerscape 1028A | 22:22 |
| chomwitt | thanks | 22:29 |
| swivel | mntmn: any idea on a timeline for when a SoC upgrade is intended? | 22:35 |
| swivel | er, SoM? | 22:35 |
| mntmn | swivel: no | 22:46 |
| mntmn | swivel: right now i have to focus on finishing Reform 2 betas + the crowdfunding campaign :) everything else laster | 23:03 |
| mntmn | later | 23:03 |
| swivel | mntmn: just curious if there was a roadmap of any sort on that front, it can help inform the buying decision if it's expected there will be an upgrade in one year, even if no commitment can be made as to the specifics | 23:06 |
| mntmn | swivel: one year seems realistic, yes | 23:06 |
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