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| dustyweb | mntmn: so exciting that you're getting close on the Reform | 19:10 |
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| dustyweb | the updates are really nice. I can't wait to use one. | 19:11 |
| mntmn | dustyweb: thank you! trying to finish everything ASAP ;) | 19:12 |
| dustyweb | :) | 19:17 |
| dustyweb | you can do it! | 19:17 |
| rvense | in the news: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/01/mnt-reform-open-source-laptop | 19:19 |
| rvense | also some discussion on reddit | 19:20 |
| mntmn | ah yeah there's a few more | 19:26 |
| mntmn | comments in omgubuntu are abysmal | 19:26 |
| mntmn | liliputing: https://liliputing.com/2020/01/mnt-reform-open-source-modular-laptop-crowdfunding-campaign-launches-in-february.html | 19:26 |
| mntmn | cnx: https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/01/19/mnt-reform-2-open-source-diy-arm-linux-modular-laptop/ | 19:27 |
| esad | speaking about physical aspects, how heavy is reform 2 atm? | 19:28 |
| rvense | ahaha, yeah, lots of hate in the comments! it's true that it's not slim, but i really liked the look in person. | 19:28 |
| esad | I'll post a quote from https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/4/20847717/light-phone-2-minimalist-features-design-keyboard-crowdfunding regarding some of the Reform comments: | 19:30 |
| esad | "In a 2017 Wired story about the futility of minimalist devices, David Pierce identified it as the “this one thing” problem. Every customer has just “one thing” they absolutely need to have their minimalist phone do in order for it to replace their current device. But everyone’s “one thing” is different. In my 2018 review of the Light Phone 1, my “one thing” was texting. If only it texted, I said, the Light Phone would be an ideal minimalist | 19:30 |
| esad | device for me." | 19:30 |
| esad | some of the comments are "this but if it had lorawan" "this but if it was tablet" | 19:30 |
| esad | imho already reform 1 was a great and very usable device, except for web surfing and I had some issues with trackball (ball getting stuck) | 19:32 |
| esad | the physical size/weight wasn't an issue - and my other laptop is a 12" Macbook | 19:32 |
| esad | so @mntmn - don't fall for the negative/one-more-thing comments :) you're on the right path | 19:33 |
| dustyweb | crappy comments are par for the course | 19:34 |
| mntmn | esad: ah, good insights! | 19:34 |
| dustyweb | it's hard to not feel torn down by them but the more important your project is, the more likely it's going to gain the kind of visibility where you get the "drive-by-snarkers" | 19:35 |
| mntmn | dustyweb: yeah, absolutely, i expected these already :) | 19:35 |
| dustyweb | it's easy to give drive-by-snark and feel good about yourself in doing so, much harder to build things. so unfortunately we have to put up with it. | 19:35 |
| dustyweb | mntmn: good :) | 19:36 |
| esad | yeah one should embrace the bad comments like berlin public transportation does in their pr. first laptop that can house your pet rat or something :) | 19:36 |
| mntmn | maybe it can give you an edge in a street fight | 19:37 |
| esad | exactly :) | 19:37 |
| esad | we built this grip so you can use it as a weapon | 19:37 |
| rvense | it's funny one of the comments mentioned jony ive, because i do see a some of that combination of uncompromising vision and attention to detail in the reform. it's just a different vision and a different set of details... | 19:40 |
| mntmn | correct | 19:41 |
| mntmn | if you think ive is just about making stuff slim you didn't understand much | 19:41 |
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| FSX | mntmn: What kind of slot does the SoM slide into? | 20:41 |
| FSX | Sorry, I overlooked it in the text. Got it now. :) | 20:44 |
| Jookia | mntmn: slimness usually means it goes in the e-waste bin when dead | 21:00 |
| mntmn | yep | 21:11 |
| rvense | or when something slimmer comes along | 21:12 |
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