2020-01-20.log

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dustywebmntmn: so exciting that you're getting close on the Reform19:10
dustywebthe updates are really nice.  I can't wait to use one.19:11
mntmndustyweb: thank you! trying to finish everything ASAP ;)19:12
dustyweb:)19:17
dustywebyou can do it!19:17
rvensein the news: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/01/mnt-reform-open-source-laptop19:19
rvensealso some discussion on reddit19:20
mntmnah yeah there's a few more19:26
mntmncomments in omgubuntu are abysmal19:26
mntmnliliputing: https://liliputing.com/2020/01/mnt-reform-open-source-modular-laptop-crowdfunding-campaign-launches-in-february.html19:26
mntmncnx: https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/01/19/mnt-reform-2-open-source-diy-arm-linux-modular-laptop/19:27
esadspeaking about physical aspects, how heavy is reform 2 atm?19:28
rvenseahaha, yeah, lots of hate in the comments! it's true that it's not slim, but i really liked the look in person.19:28
esadI'll post a quote from https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/4/20847717/light-phone-2-minimalist-features-design-keyboard-crowdfunding regarding some of the Reform comments:19:30
esad"In a 2017 Wired story about the futility of minimalist devices, David Pierce identified it as the “this one thing” problem. Every customer has just “one thing” they absolutely need to have their minimalist phone do in order for it to replace their current device. But everyone’s “one thing” is different. In my 2018 review of the Light Phone 1, my “one thing” was texting. If only it texted, I said, the Light Phone would be an ideal minimalist19:30
esad device for me."19:30
esadsome of the comments are "this but if it had lorawan" "this but if it was tablet"19:30
esadimho already reform 1 was a great and very usable device, except for web surfing and I had some issues with trackball (ball getting stuck)19:32
esadthe physical size/weight wasn't an issue - and my other laptop is a 12" Macbook19:32
esadso @mntmn - don't fall for the negative/one-more-thing comments :) you're on the right path19:33
dustywebcrappy comments are par for the course19:34
mntmnesad: ah, good insights!19:34
dustywebit's hard to not feel torn down by them but the more important your project is, the more likely it's going to gain the kind of visibility where you get the "drive-by-snarkers"19:35
mntmndustyweb: yeah, absolutely, i expected these already :)19:35
dustywebit's easy to give drive-by-snark and feel good about yourself in doing so, much harder to build things.  so unfortunately we have to put up with it.19:35
dustywebmntmn: good :)19:36
esadyeah one should embrace the bad comments like berlin public transportation does in their pr. first laptop that can house your pet rat or something :)19:36
mntmnmaybe it can give you an edge in a street fight19:37
esadexactly :)19:37
esadwe built this grip so you can use it as a weapon19:37
rvenseit's funny one of the comments mentioned jony ive, because i do see a some of that combination of uncompromising vision and attention to detail in the reform. it's just a different vision and a different set of details...19:40
mntmncorrect19:41
mntmnif you think ive is just about making stuff slim you didn't understand much19:41
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FSXmntmn: What kind of slot does the SoM slide into?20:41
FSXSorry, I overlooked it in the text. Got it now. :)20:44
Jookiamntmn: slimness usually means it goes in the e-waste bin when dead21:00
mntmnyep21:11
rvenseor when something slimmer comes along21:12
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