| mntmn | alex4nder: wow | 00:46 |
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| mntmn | thanks for that link | 00:46 |
| swivel | sounds like purism needs an interest-free loan asap | 00:48 |
| mntmn | yep | 01:07 |
| Jookia | alex4nder: definitely a steal given the librem 5's state of affairs | 03:37 |
| alex4nder | Jookia: I've heard some rumors.. sounds like some drama | 03:42 |
| Jookia | alex4nder: well, they haven't managed to ship a phone without some fatal flaw yet | 03:44 |
| Jookia | i guess it's up to the quality of an iphone then | 03:44 |
| alex4nder | yah.. it hasn't been motivating to buy one | 03:45 |
| Jookia | setting up new projects while their existing ones are on fire is a classic purism move | 03:46 |
| swivel | they're out of money to finish what they started | 05:06 |
| swivel | why they can't just be honest about that instead of going all Shkreli with backers/buyers funds escapes me | 05:08 |
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| + Jookia (~Jookia@gateway/tor-sasl/jookia) | 05:17 | |
| Jookia | swivel: i guess because that would look bad and so far this weird reverse ponzi seems to be working | 05:21 |
| Jookia | oh, not reverse | 05:22 |
| swivel | i'm surprised people aren't insisting preorder funds be held in escrow at this point | 05:31 |
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| _Bnu | It's fine, it says right there on the web page that they're dedicated to bringing their customers a PDF viewer within a few years. ('-`)b | 09:57 |
| rvense | does the $2000 version have a heatsink? | 09:58 |
| mntmn | i thought the case is the heatsink | 09:58 |
| mntmn | do you have any interesting review links? | 09:59 |
| mntmn | i saw only one which was posted by the official purism twitter | 09:59 |
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| + erlehmann (~erlehmann@46.114.39.239) | 10:05 | |
| swivel | https://0net.io/1EwAh4KUfGgRw1re7uyrmTUWKZYV9SHVcW/ | 10:11 |
| swivel | https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/e2mqgb/i_have_my_librem_5_ama/ | 10:11 |
| swivel | https://azdle.net/2019/11/comparing-apples-and-gnomes/ | 10:11 |
| swivel | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/12/librem-5-backers-receiving-their-linux-phones/ | 10:11 |
| swivel | "Whether the screen is on or off doesn't seem to make a difference. The device gets very, very hot. It is no surprise that the battery doesn't last very long. It doesn't even last an hour. So I just have to switch the phone off while it is not being used and not plugged in." | 10:13 |
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| mntmn | thanks swivel | 10:22 |
| mntmn | all of this USA stuff is funny because the schematics are obviously chinese | 10:23 |
| Jookia | swivel: where's that quote from? | 10:24 |
| mntmn | Jookia: it’s from the 0net article, first link | 10:35 |
| Jookia | ah, that didn't load on my machine | 10:38 |
| swivel | Jookia: it needs javascript | 10:47 |
| Jookia | yeah i enabled it | 10:49 |
| Jookia | it apparently tries to connect to a websocket and gets a 101 error | 10:49 |
| Jookia | oh it wanted cookies too | 10:50 |
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| mntmn | cool, new nxp dcss patchset | 11:12 |
| mntmn | > * fixed a a spurious hang reported by Lukas Hartmann and encountered by me several times; | 11:12 |
| mntmn | nice! | 11:12 |
| mntmn | (dcss was hanging my reform 2 prototype at about 30% of boots) | 11:13 |
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| slobber | thank christ i'm in evergreen batch | 18:00 |
| slobber | if the company lasts that long | 18:01 |
| ieure | Yikes. | 18:14 |
| ieure | I preordered the PinePhone. I figure either of these are going to be disappointing at first, but one hour battery life would fail to meet even my low expectations. | 18:15 |
| doppler | yeah | 18:16 |
| doppler | does anyone have insight into what the deal with that is? | 18:16 |
| doppler | I mean clearly a chip is sitting there doing something and getting hot | 18:16 |
| ieure | Yeah, guessing it's the CPU and they have no frequency scaling so it runs full blast all the time. | 18:17 |
| mntmn | imx8m does have frequency scaling though and also idle injection in the latest kernel | 18:18 |
| mntmn | but it gets pretty hot, especially when the GPU is working | 18:18 |
| * erlehmann_ -> erlehmann | 18:42 | |
| slobber | they also have a few months until the more widely-distributed evergreen batch | 18:49 |
| slobber | so imo whatever phones they're shipping before then are, uh, better-assembled devkits that may have issues fixed in software | 18:49 |
| slobber | or may not | 18:49 |
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| doppler | hoping for the sake of everyone who bought the current round that it can be patched in s/w | 19:32 |
| doppler | being able to carry the thing around with you and use it on battery is pretty essential for a mobile device dev kit imo | 19:33 |
| doppler | I guess ppl can always get by with a USB power bank strapped to it :) | 19:33 |
| ieure | And one of those USB fans to keep it cool. | 19:34 |
| swivel | if they can't reel in the power use this thing is DoA | 19:35 |
| adjtm | ieure, I received the pinephone a couple of days ago and the build quality looks very nice | 19:59 |
| adjtm | I have not booted it yet (it's for replicant development) | 19:59 |
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| swivel | hmm, with open issues like these it does sound plausible that the power and heat issues can be reeled in with software https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/linux-next/issues/68 | 21:05 |
| mntmn | at least in my experience thermal has improved in linux-next | 22:39 |
| mntmn | don’t know what exactly made the difference, my guess is idle injection | 22:39 |
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