2019-11-26.log

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pinoaffemntmn: what's the reason for going with wifi over usb, rather than pcie? does the soc not have any pcie lanes (to spare)?15:10
mntmnpinoaffe: who says i’m going with usb over pcie?15:12
mntmnpinoaffe: it’s just a cheap, simple alternative15:13
mntmnyou can do it with mpcie but it’s more expensive and you need to mount the antenna inside15:13
pinoaffemntmn: ah okay, it just seemed that way :)15:13
mntmni just like having options :)15:14
mntmnor put another way: i like to be prepared to give future users recommendations15:14
+ wiedi (~wiedi@ip5b4096a6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)16:01
swiveli've found using a tiny usb dongle for wifi to be quite convenient at times... being able to just rip out the dongle to force going offline immediately has been useful twice in the last week when firefox got wadded up and my system was thrashing while I waited for the inevitable OOM18:51
swivelyanking the usb dongle in both cases caused the OOM to occur immediately by terminating all the active connections firefox was slowly making progress on18:53
mntmnswivel: cool19:52
swivelmntmn: it surprised me when it worked :)  but when you're about to yank power and lose a bunch of state/work, and sysrq doesn't seem to be working, might as ewll try yanking the wifi first!19:56
mntmnyeah it makes sense19:57
swivelit also delivers a purism-like wifi hardware switch without having to get one of those machines, which can give peace of mind about being offline when you want to be offline19:58
mntmnswivel: yeah, exactly my point20:16
mntmnif you can _remove_ your wifi there's no arguing about rfkill20:16
swivelagreed.  I've come to prefer all wireless radios on usb where I can plug/unplug them as needed.20:18
swiveladditionally usb doesn't have dma access to the host's memory so I don't have to trust the firmware so much.20:19
swivelputting things on pcie implies a lot of trust20:19
mntmnexactly20:21
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