2019-10-31.log

adjtmswivel, I recently bought an msi laptop, it's not bad but I should have bought a lenovo x39500:24
ieureI hope the next-gen AMD ThinkPads are good.00:26
swivelnot a fan of the post-ibm lenovo keyboards00:28
swivelmost my linux using friends have migrated from lenovo X-series machines to dell xp13 now00:31
swivel*xps1300:31
dopplersame with mine00:34
ieureI went the other way, MacBook Air -> XPS -> ThinkPad.00:34
ieureXPS didn't hold up at all, battery lost 50% capacity in just over a year.00:34
doppleroof. that's pretty bad00:34
ieureAlso, hope they dumped the garbage Broadcom WiFi.  The one I had, I swapped the card with an Intel one and it improved things drastically.  But the WiFi chipset is soldered on the las couple gens.00:36
ieureThe stock WiFi was completely unusable on Linux.00:36
swiveli haven't heard similar complaints from other linux folks, some work @ redhat^Wibm and it's the work-supplied machine they run fedora on00:38
swivelbut the keyboard doesn't look any better than the modern thinkpad keyboards so I'm not too excited about it00:39
dopplernot that that's even a very high mark ;)00:42
swivelim gonna end up buying another used x6[01] off ebay00:52
swiveljust sucks it's not even a nehalem00:53
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slobberxps13 absolutely sucked for linux a few years ago01:19
slobberin my use, at least01:19
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swivelthey ship linux preinstalled01:31
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slobberyeah, and it didn't fly well for me02:51
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mntmnlaptops, so hard to get right ;)13:54
mntmnthe last one i bought was a macbook pro in 201313:54
mntmnran debian on it for a few years, wifi never worked correctly (broadcom b43)13:54
mntmnin my last company i had a beefy thinkpad, but i don’t even remember the model name. it was not exciting13:55
mntmnbut i tried a lot of distros on it, including void, which was cool for a while. and openbsd13:56
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rvensei run void. it's ok.16:08
mntmndid they change anything in the last 2 years?16:11
rvensei don't think so16:13
rvenseit has that package manager that's quite good, and uses runit for its init system16:13
mntmncool16:17
mntmnxbps16:17
rvenseyeah16:20
adjtmrvense, I have used sabotage, do you any opinion about the advantages or disadvantages of void? (compared with sabotage)16:39
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rvenseadjtm: i don't know sabotage. void has been trouble-free for me on a thinkpad x200s. my personal main machine, but for work i use ubuntu.18:58
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