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| mntmn | cool, missed this one https://liliputing.com/2019/10/diy-modular-mnt-reform-laptop-gets-spec-bump-as-it-inches-toward-reality.html | 12:45 |
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| chomwitt | ACTION reading https://liliputing.com/2019/10/diy-modular-mnt-reform-laptop-gets-spec-bump-as-it-inches-toward-reality.html | 14:02 |
| elwisp | liliputing is a good site | 14:33 |
| elwisp | mntmn: mntmn: im curious what the lscpu or cat /proc/cpuinfo returns on that cpu. Mind to share? | 14:35 |
| mntmn | elwisp: yeah i’m cooking food atm, i can try that later. looking for anything specific? | 18:15 |
| elwisp | was just curious about the speed and the cpuflags. Virtualization flags etc | 18:21 |
| - B[] (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~Thunderbi@122-61-176-31-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz) | 18:58 | |
| chomwitt | the review in liliputing is good, but the comments as usual are the spoiledchild ones. the comment as if this is a laptop from a great company to be benchmarked with the current performance leaders! | 19:08 |
| mntmn | ah, didn’t read comments yet | 19:10 |
| mntmn | ah, read the comments. :D | 19:11 |
| swivel | mntmn: do you happen to know off the top of your head the width of the keyboard? | 20:35 |
| mntmn | swivel: around 27.5cm incl pcb | 20:35 |
| swivel | thanks | 20:36 |
| swivel | i need to replace my x61s and right now it's a toss up between xps13, 51nb x210, and waiting for the reform 2. | 20:38 |
| swivel | reform 2 is probably still a bit too chunky for my nomadic ways though | 20:39 |
| slobber | x1e is pretty good | 21:14 |
| swivel | slobber: isn't that 15"? | 21:24 |
| ieure | I'm waiting on an X2100. | 21:24 |
| ieure | Whenever they're built. | 21:24 |
| ieure | Already ordered. | 21:24 |
| swivel | i'm specifically looking for something with X40/X60 dimension keyboard, those fit my smallish hands perfectly... my x220 is too wide and I can't type anywhere near as quickly and make lots of errors | 21:25 |
| swivel | ieure: X210 looks good | 21:25 |
| swivel | ieure: how much did you pay? | 21:25 |
| ieure | $1160 for the barebones machine. Drop in RAM and SSD and it's ready to go. | 21:25 |
| swivel | my main hangup with 51nb options are aftermarket batteries for old thinkpads generally suck | 21:26 |
| ieure | I have some NOS ones. | 21:27 |
| ieure | Found a NOS X200/1 9-cell and a couple 6-cells. All pretty cheap, $20-$30ish. | 21:27 |
| ieure | Checked them out in my X201s, all genuine and working fine. | 21:27 |
| ieure | It is a hassle, the third-party batteries do suck and there are a lot of counterfeits. | 21:28 |
| slobber | https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19121-01/sf.x2100/819-3721-13/Chap1.html nice that's nice and thin | 21:29 |
| ieure | Ha | 21:29 |
| slobber | x2100 looks wider than x60 though, no? | 21:29 |
| ieure | It is. | 21:29 |
| swivel | it's a little wider | 21:29 |
| slobber | the beautiful times of 4:3 x60s are gone | 21:30 |
| swivel | i used to have an x201s, it's basically as wide as I can go before it's a problem | 21:30 |
| ieure | They'd switched to widescreen by then, so the chassis is wider to accommodate. | 21:30 |
| swivel | ieure: the ridiculous thing is the display bezel is huge on that model, they didn't have to go that wide to accomodate the screen. | 21:30 |
| ieure | swivel, Yeah, the bezels started getting huge. They're nearly nonexistent on the X6x. | 21:31 |
| ieure | I love the size of the X6x, but find the keyboard layout isn't ideal. Particularly the ESC key above F1. Same issue with X20x. X220 keyboard is best IMO. | 21:31 |
| slobber | i have a one mix 2s for when i need to take work somewhere super portable | 21:31 |
| ieure | slobber, Running Linux on that? | 21:32 |
| slobber | yea | 21:32 |
| ieure | Any good? | 21:32 |
| slobber | i mean, it's fine | 21:32 |
| ieure | ha | 21:32 |
| slobber | the mouse is a waste of life | 21:32 |
| ieure | I have a GPD Pocket 1, I'd love something exactly the same, but with better Linux support. | 21:32 |
| slobber | i run dwm but somehow never got used to switching between windows via keyboard | 21:33 |
| ieure | All the new ones have that optical sensor I hate. | 21:33 |
| slobber | plus the screen isn't big enough to have a browser and terminal at the same time | 21:33 |
| slobber | yeah | 21:33 |
| ieure | Yeah, I use a tiling WM on mine, one thing full-screen. | 21:33 |
| swivel | that's too small for me to use as a daily driver | 21:33 |
| ieure | Yeah, I wouldn't recommend that. | 21:33 |
| swivel | i have a pile of clamshell sharp zauruses collecting dust somewhere | 21:34 |
| ieure | Main beef with the Pocket 1 is that sleep doesn't work right in Linux, so the battery is dead in a day unless you turn it completely off when you're done. Which sucks. | 21:34 |
| ieure | If that one thing was fixed, I'd be content. | 21:34 |
| swivel | that sounds like something fixable | 21:39 |
| slobber | no such issue with one netbook | 21:43 |
| slobber | but there are other annoying things | 21:43 |
| ieure | Screen rotation stuff? | 21:47 |
| bleb | ieure: you know about pyra? | 21:57 |
| ieure | bleb, Nope. | 22:28 |
| bleb | https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/ | 22:30 |
| bleb | pretty promising | 22:30 |
| ieure | It looks like someone beat a Nintendo DS to death with an ugly stick | 22:32 |
| doppler | haha | 22:33 |
| bleb | ieure: you'd rather have something with no removable battery or screws | 22:43 |
| bleb | or ports | 22:43 |
| ieure | You realize I'm in an IRC channel for a boutique scratch-build laptop, and that I intend to buy one when they're available, right? | 22:45 |
| ieure | I just think Pyra is, 1) profoundly ugly 2) not what I'm looking for at all. | 22:45 |
| ieure | I have no use for game controllers, put a reasonable keyboard on that thing. | 22:45 |
| bleb | yeah | 22:46 |
| doppler | yeah | 22:46 |
| doppler | the pyra is a game console | 22:46 |
| bleb | if i needed to do heavy duty typing i would plug in a keyboard | 22:47 |
| bleb | which you can do since there are usb ports | 22:47 |
| bleb | but if you need heavy duty typing with something that can fit in a large pocket, i guess that other thing succeeds where the pyra fails | 22:48 |
| bleb | not sure why you think pyra is ugly while the reform laptop is not, but i guess aesthetic preferences dont always follow logic | 22:50 |
| swivel | in a world where there are already smartphones filling that small display shitty typing role, any computer I want something to do with better have a keyboard suited to "heavy duty typing" | 22:51 |
| bleb | yeah | 22:51 |
| bleb | if you already have a smartphone the pyra is less exciting | 22:52 |
| bleb | but for me this would replace the smartphone as a small screen shitty typing computer, and it would have the benefit that you could plug in a keyboard and have non-shitty typing for stuff like sms | 22:54 |
| ieure | I can plug in (or bluetooth) a non-shitty keyboard on most any phone. | 22:54 |
| bleb | and in fact actual good typing rather than the disappointing state of bluetooth keyboards | 22:54 |
| bleb | yeah if the gpd pocket 1 is our standard for non-shitty then bluetooth keyboards make that grade | 22:55 |
| bleb | (assuming the bluetooth connection is reliable) | 22:56 |
| ieure | GPDP1 has a shitty keyboard. Just less shitty than the Pyra. | 22:58 |
| bleb | yeah | 22:58 |
| bleb | its relative | 22:58 |
| bleb | usb keyboard > bluetooth phone keyboards > gpdp1 > pyra > touch screen | 22:59 |
| slobber | neat! re: pyra | 23:25 |
| slobber | pricey though | 23:26 |
| slobber | i guess properly so | 23:27 |
| bleb | they have only about 1000 preorders | 23:27 |
| bleb | so not great economy of scale | 23:28 |
| slobber | i already dropped this money on a librem five that'll disappoint me | 23:28 |
| bleb | yes it will | 23:29 |
| slobber | i think that's enough donations for this year | 23:29 |
| slobber | maybe pine phone will disappoint less | 23:29 |
| slobber | jeez | 23:29 |
| slobber | i feel like i'm not asking for much in terms of a phone | 23:30 |
| slobber | i guess i am | 23:30 |
| slobber | if US didn't kill off 2g i would've been happier i think | 23:30 |
| bleb | yeah me too | 23:30 |
| slobber | oh well, crowds' voices are heard best | 23:30 |
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