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| Jookia | https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena/updates/novena-five-year-anniversary | 23:07 |
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| adjtm_ | Jookia, so you links this in this channel but not on #kosagi? ;) | 23:18 |
| Jookia | adjtm_: oh! i thought it was linked in kosagi too :) | 23:18 |
| Jookia | since we were discussing it | 23:18 |
| adjtm_ | since the crowdsupply email arrived to me nobody linked there | 23:19 |
| Jookia | yeah | 23:19 |
| adjtm_ | maybe before while I was unconnected | 23:20 |
| Jookia | i link it here because the reform seems kind of like a spiritual successor to the novena | 23:21 |
| alex4nder | damn, has the novena really been five years | 23:21 |
| mntmn | i see it as such, yeah | 23:27 |
| mntmn | cool @ anniversary | 23:27 |
| mntmn | oh it's EOL | 23:27 |
| Jookia | yep | 23:28 |
| Jookia | EOL = reform time :P | 23:28 |
| mntmn | damn hell yeah | 23:29 |
| mntmn | monday the latest we'll assemble the reform 2 mainboard | 23:29 |
| mntmn | zz9000 shipments blocked all our ressources for several weeks | 23:29 |
| Jookia | nice | 23:29 |
| adjtm_ | novena is open source, but the board is like 8 layer, very complex and with expensive EOL components, so building a small production run would be difficult and expensive | 23:32 |
| Jookia | yep | 23:32 |
| mntmn | i also saw that librem have a PCB now | 23:32 |
| Jookia | wasn't one of mntmn's goals to have the main board (not the soc pcb) hand solderable? | 23:32 |
| adjtm_ | one of the improvements for reform over novena is the less complex system | 23:32 |
| mntmn | i hope it's KiCAD as well... so we could adapt it as a fully open version of the SOM later for reform | 23:32 |
| mntmn | Jookia, yes | 23:33 |
| mntmn | there are a few QFNs but not many | 23:33 |
| Jookia | that's a lot more doable than balled components | 23:34 |
| mntmn | yeah so far no BGAs on the mainboard | 23:35 |
| Jookia | having the soc be on its own board seems a lot easier for production runs and upgrading | 23:36 |
| adjtm_ | mntmn, novena's CAD files are for Altium | 23:37 |
| adjtm_ | but sourcerer did a altium2kicad converter (written in perl) | 23:37 |
| mntmn | yeah | 23:37 |
| adjtm_ | he tested it a lot with novena's files (because novena was the reason why he wrote the converter) | 23:38 |
| adjtm_ | kicad has improved a lot in this 5 years | 23:39 |
| adjtm_ | specially routing | 23:39 |
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| mntmn | absolutely | 23:48 |
| mntmn | https://www.kosagi.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=65 | 23:50 |
| adjtm_ | the disadvantage of being in perl is that can't be integrated inside kicad (that I think it has python scripting) | 23:51 |
| mntmn | checking the novena schematics atm... crazy amount of stuff put into it, especially the FPGA part | 23:54 |
| mntmn | the PCB really opens in KiCad, amazing | 23:56 |
| mntmn | brutal layout :D | 23:56 |
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