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| mntmn | asus also in the i.mx8m biz now | 18:49 |
| mntmn | https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05/29/asus-tinker-edge-t-cr1s-cm-a-sbc-google-coral-edge-tpu-nxp-i-mx-8m-processor | 18:49 |
| swivel | I don't understand how purism is supposed to put that SoC in a smartphone when Asus needs to stick a heat sink and fan on it | 19:37 |
| adjtm | swivel, there are a lot of variables about that | 20:09 |
| adjtm | asus is putting an i.mx8m + a tpu | 20:10 |
| swivel | adjtm: the article states the tpu will be on mini pcie | 20:10 |
| adjtm | swivel, but isn't that under the heatsink? | 20:11 |
| adjtm | it also depends on frequency (google says that depending on frequency the tpu gets very hot in their usb device) | 20:12 |
| swivel | what makes you think it's under the heat sink? | 20:13 |
| adjtm | am I wrong? | 20:13 |
| swivel | in the article it's only shown as a separate mini pcie board next to the case, I don't think it's even integrated yet | 20:14 |
| swivel | this is all they say on that topic "But what differentiate PN60T from other mini PCs is that it will be fitted with a mini PCIe card equipped with Google Edge TPU. Shipping is expected for Q4 2019." | 20:14 |
| swivel | /will/ be fitted | 20:14 |
| adjtm | swivel, google also uses a heatsink+fan | 20:15 |
| adjtm | https://coral.withgoogle.com/products/dev-board | 20:15 |
| swivel | adjtm: so the asus device will likely need another heatsink+fan | 20:16 |
| swivel | they don't show the back side of the board, I presume that's where the minipcie socket is | 20:17 |
| adjtm | google's usb device doesn't have a fan (it doesn't have an additional SOC) and google says that it gets very hot at maximum frequency | 20:17 |
| adjtm | anyway, there were SBC with exynos quad core cortex-a9 with heatsink, but samsung use them in their phones | 20:18 |
| adjtm | it depends in max frequency, power management, case design... | 20:19 |
| adjtm | i.mx8m uses low power cortex-a53 cores | 20:19 |
| adjtm | much less power than cortex-a9 | 20:19 |
| swivel | that google model is more tightly integrated than the asus | 20:19 |
| swivel | so the librem5 will probably be slow to keep thermals in check | 20:22 |
| swivel | i hope their dev kit videos have been with debugging builds or no gpu accel because the gui already seems very sluggish with a heat sink and fan | 20:23 |
| adjtm | swivel, I think that both use pcie, so equally integrated | 20:23 |
| adjtm | the open source support for the GC7000 Lite is not very mature yet | 20:24 |
| swivel | adjtm: do you work with purism? | 20:40 |
| mntmn | i have a bunch of i.MX8M boards | 21:09 |
| mntmn | 3 to be exact | 21:09 |
| mntmn | they all have passive heatsinks, the phytec one has quite a small one | 21:09 |
| adjtm | swivel, no I don't | 22:39 |
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