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| mntmn | fix made it into the kernel https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=70be9ac2b64c0d0db4f0e3004b764df33b1098e2 | 01:41 |
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| swivel | mntmn: did you see https://abopen.com/news/building-a-risc-v-pc/ ? it's being discussed on HN currently | 02:44 |
| mntmn | swivel not yet, thx | 02:49 |
| mntmn | ah, i’ve seem pretty much exactly this device at fosdem | 02:49 |
| mntmn | all the microchip fpga stuff on this is proprietary afaik | 02:52 |
| swivel | ah yeah someone mentioned it being at fosdem in the HN thread | 02:55 |
| swivel | still nice to see progress towards a risc-v pc, may not be too long before we see something without the fpga stuff suitable for reform-like form factors | 02:56 |
| mntmn | yeah when that arrives i’ll make a reform board around it | 02:57 |
| mntmn | it would be great if that chip wasn’t $1000 then though ;) | 02:57 |
| swivel | presumably that drops orders of magnitude as production ramps up in scale, more a developer kit item for now - i wonder if they're also trying to prioritize what supply there is landing in developer's hands with the high price | 02:59 |
| mntmn | sure, i understand it. i meant more like: i hope there will be the demand and the volume to lower the price | 03:01 |
| swivel | what I'd like to know is how much of that $1000 is profit at the current scale | 03:03 |
| mntmn | almost nothing i’d guess | 03:04 |
| swivel | 28nm that expensive? | 03:10 |
| mntmn | they sold maybe 250 units. even if the material cost was only $500, it still <100k margin which i doubt would even scratch the surface of r&d costs on this | 03:13 |
| mntmn | > NRE+Minimum order qty is usually around US$1 million. | 03:16 |
| swivel | i'm surprised they don't try a crowdfund preorders to enable a large scale run at low unit cost | 03:32 |
| swivel | prolly requires the ecosystem to mature more first, expansion board options for different packages etc | 03:32 |
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| mntmn | swivel, it was a crowdfunding campaign. on crowdsupply | 11:35 |
| mntmn | https://www.crowdsupply.com/sifive/hifive-unleashed | 11:36 |
| mntmn | ah well $1 goal | 11:36 |
| mntmn | bizarre risc-v chip https://www.seeedstudio.com/Sipeed-MAIX-I-module-WiFi-version-1st-RISC-V-64-AI-Module-K210-insid-p-3206.html | 12:01 |
| mntmn | datasheet (kendryte k210) https://s3.cn-north-1.amazonaws.com.cn/dl.kendryte.com/documents/kendryte_datasheet_20181011163248_en.pdf#page18 | 12:06 |
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