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| esad | does anyone remember Pocket CHIP? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIP_(computer) | 12:23 |
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| esad | it would be great if future reform would be also usable outside of the laptop case | 12:25 |
| mntmn | esad, you mean a pocket sized version? i have been toying with the thought as well | 12:27 |
| mntmn | esad, erlehmann gifted me a pocket chip recently ;) | 12:28 |
| esad | in pocket chip, you just plug in the chip into the case. the form factor was ~1/2 of raspberry pi size, that was helpful too :) | 12:28 |
| esad | ideally, you would be able to plug in the core into various cases - pocket, laptop etc. | 12:29 |
| esad | what I liked about pocket chip is that it was great for prototyping/testing and then you could just buy a $9 chip for real use case | 12:29 |
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| + esad (~textual@213.143.112.210) | 15:09 | |
| esad | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqNfpL8ML_w story behind chip | 15:09 |
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| mntmn | esad, hmm not clear why you should plug/unplug something that costs only $9... why not get a bunch of em | 16:23 |
| mntmn | i also don't really get why people would want to plug their phone into something to make it a desktop (example: samsung dex) | 16:23 |
| esad | because your data is on the flash, but year you're right :) | 16:23 |
| mntmn | i think what makes more sense is to have many computers that all sync their data in real time | 16:24 |
| mntmn | for example, i would like to have a reform in my monitor | 16:24 |
| mntmn | like, a big version for the desk | 16:24 |
| mntmn | and another one as a laptop, and another one as a phone, and they would all share the same FS | 16:24 |
| mntmn | then, if you lose one, it's also not a problem. or send it to repair etc | 16:25 |
| mntmn | if you have only one main data store/device then all of your shells are suddenly useles | 16:25 |
| mntmn | +s | 16:25 |
| mntmn | especially because the price and energy trend is going down | 16:25 |
| mntmn | the price drivers will be the mechanical parts and displays and maybe mass storage | 16:26 |
| esad | you're right, it's only that this automagic sync is hard. it almost always comes with some kind of "cloud" on the other end and with this you have security issues. | 16:26 |
| esad | I'd rather have a poorman's solution now where I just plug unplug the core :) | 16:27 |
| esad | but my argument wasn't only about end user, it was more about loose integration - you can reuse same core in many uses cases | 16:27 |
| esad | I think that's what they wanted to do with CHIP, have one single board they can (re)use in different projects | 16:30 |
| mntmn | yes, i understand. i also want to achieve that on some level | 16:31 |
| mntmn | would be great to have our own open source SoMs | 16:31 |
| mntmn | also, the sync story could be a worthwhile development project | 16:31 |
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| andrej235 | mntmn: I demand op ;) | 19:16 |
| + esad (~textual@84-113-242-212.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) | 19:17 | |
| mntmn | /op andrej235 | 19:21 |
| mntmn | haha | 19:22 |
| * mntmn changed mode (+o, andrej235) | 19:22 | |
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| + nemunaire (~nemunaire@lfbn-1-949-99.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr) | 22:29 | |
| Jookia | mntmn: most of cloud is workaround because we goofed on internet infrastructure by NATing/firewalling everything | 23:15 |
| specing | Nah, I think that even with no NAT we'd still have cloud. Simply because people don't want to bother setting things up | 23:16 |
| Jookia | specing: i think in an ideal land every device would get an unfirewalled ipv6 ip and we could work with that to a DIY cloud | 23:17 |
| specing | and even though I have an IPv4 address you still cannot access me or any devices in my home, because I'm behind CGNAT as my home internet is over mobile data | 23:19 |
| specing | and this is good as I get "charged" for the incoming data traffic as well | 23:19 |
| Jookia | sweet | 23:19 |
| specing | maybe with 5G we'll get to true unlimited finaly | 23:20 |
| specing | with 4G we are at 200GB/mo affordable packages | 23:20 |
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