2023-03-15.log

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minutezz9000 batch finally on our way11:35
minutealso, this time the PCBs are black :311:35
ClaudeIf only pcbway/jlc would do that clear soldermask like oshpark 11:55
minuteClaude: pcbway does afaik?13:30
minutealso pcbbuy does some interesting stuff13:30
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apolkosnik[m]The only issue I still see is the machine freezing up when bringing the network down15:38
apolkosnik[m]Freezing as in totally locking up15:39
apolkosnik[m]I guess that's a driver issue rather than firmware15:40
minuteahh17:38
minuteok, this is what i wanted to figure out17:38
minuteapolkosnik[m]: so when you do netshutdown?17:38
apolkosnik[m]Let me see if it's just something with Roadie17:43
apolkosnik[m]3 seconds after hitting enter17:43
apolkosnik[m]Froze17:44
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apolkosnik[m]It managed to output this ^ before freezing 17:45
minutethanks, will test17:47
apolkosnik[m]This is even with nonitor file for ZZ9000 not loaded (I've been trying to fix a CV643D) 17:47
apolkosnik[m]Another thing... 17:47
apolkosnik[m]There's checkboards utility distributed with p96, and it just makes the screen go black17:48
minutehuh. what does that util normally do?17:48
apolkosnik[m]When the ZZ9000 monitor is loaded17:48
apolkosnik[m]Otherwise, it just shows17:49
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apolkosnik[m]Which is normal17:50
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apolkosnik[m]With my broken CV643D, I can see some useful output17:52
apolkosnik[m]Clearly, my CV643D has no usable memory17:53
apolkosnik[m]It's no big deal, just something that I've noticed 17:54
minuteah mhm.18:07
minuteapolkosnik[m]: reproduced!18:12
minutenice18:12
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minuteapolkosnik[m]: driver problem indeed. this version fixes it for me, can you confirm? http://dump.mntmn.com/ZZ9000Net.device18:59
apolkosnik[m]Swapping out the old one19:06
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apolkosnik[m]It works as intended, no more freezes19:09
minuteapolkosnik[m]: great, thanks!!19:09
minuteapolkosnik[m]: can you do "version file devs:networks/zz9000net.device"?19:10
minuteshould report 1.1319:10
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apolkosnik[m]Yup19:11
minuteperfect, thanks19:12
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Chain|Qcc: Lynn|A4000 ^^^ -- here comes the fix to your networking issue :)19:25
Lynn|A4000oh?19:34
Lynn|A4000i mean i fixed my network issue by not using a 30 year old tcp/ip stack anymore :B19:35
minutehehe19:35
minutegreat19:35
minuteso, i just fixed a freeze when shutting the network down19:35
minutemaybe not relevant for you19:35
apolkosnik[m]It was freezing with roadshow, not sure about the other stacks19:36
Lynn|A4000minute: oh, hm. with roadshow that does happen for me, but it's only a few seconds, not fatal19:42
Lynn|A4000((didn't happen on amitcp :B))19:42
minuteoh weird, for me it was permanent freeze19:44
Lynn|A4000i also don't know for sure if this is specifically network shutdown, or _whdload_ taking the network down19:44
Lynn|A4000((seeing as that's the only time it ever gets taken down))19:45
minuteah, some whdload games still freeze for me... but i'm not sure the driver can do something about it. i think it is because the card is still sending interrupts and they can't be turned off by the driver as whload has taken over the system19:54
minutethis wasn't an issue in the olden days as we were timing out our interrupts.19:55
apolkosnik[m]In most cases just bringing down the network interface saves the day20:10
Chain|Qthis is even described in the whdload manual, under "bugs". 20:11
Chain|Qhttp://www.whdload.de/docs/en/bugs.html20:11
Chain|Qso this isn't ZZ9000 specific, and if it works, it works completely as an accident20:12
Chain|Qalthough probably it would be cool, if whdload had an infrastructure for executing stricts before startup/after shutdown... then this could be automated for the given hardware20:20
apolkosnik[m]It has the facility for it, just it's not there by default 20:32
apolkosnik[m]People have been adding that for a while for their networked amigas20:34
minuteah21:05
Chain|Qright... i am anything but a whdload expert. -.-'21:27
Chain|Qbut good to know21:27

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