| + gdonner (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 01:40 | |
| gdonner | minute: I'm suspect the boot gurus were linked to the ZZ9000 autoboot and Fast RAM add-on | 01:41 |
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| gdonner | using the noautoboot, no Z3 FastRAM, boots without a guru | 01:42 |
| gdonner | but still getting the occasional ZZ9000AX.audio crash (8000 0004) | 01:42 |
| gdonner | (in a requester) | 01:43 |
| gdonner | *suspecting | 01:43 |
| gdonner | I also noticed that AXMP3, after playing one or two MP3s, starts to play a second or two of the previous MP3 track at the beginning of the current MP3 you're trying to play | 01:44 |
| gdonner | like something isn't getting cleared somehow? | 01:44 |
| gdonner | in any case, those are the biggest issues I've noticed in fw/drivers 1.11 | 01:45 |
| gdonner | this is still on my A3000/040 | 01:48 |
| gdonner | haven't updated my A4000 to 1.11 yet | 01:48 |
| - gdonner (QUIT: ) (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 02:05 | |
| + mnemotron (mnemotron@194.135.47.239) | 08:09 | |
| - js (QUIT: Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) (~js@2001:470:69fc:105::232) | 09:14 | |
| - apolkosnik[m] (QUIT: Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) (~apolkosni@2001:470:69fc:105::ff7) | 09:14 | |
| + js (~js@2001:470:69fc:105::232) | 09:17 | |
| + apolkosnik[m] (~apolkosni@2001:470:69fc:105::ff7) | 09:24 | |
| + NoctisBE (~NoctisBE@d54c34cde.access.telenet.be) | 14:20 | |
| NoctisBE | Hiya! Hope everyone is well. Just received my ZZ9000 and I'm having some issues so I was hoping anyone might be able to help me :) | 14:21 |
| apolkosnik[m] | NoctisBE: Hey, what's the problem? | 14:24 |
| NoctisBE | I've installed it in my A2000, but I only get a flickering image. Tried the latest FW by downloading it and placing boot.bin on the sd-card as well, but same result. Hold on, I'll link a video | 14:24 |
| NoctisBE | https://youtu.be/bJ6_Otnx1wo | 14:24 |
| NoctisBE | I've reseated the boards already, as well as the flatcable, and tried several zorro slots | 14:25 |
| NoctisBE | also cleaned the slots using canned air etc | 14:26 |
| apolkosnik[m] | can your monitor handle 50Hz? | 14:27 |
| apolkosnik[m] | You used the 1.11 driver for Z2? | 14:28 |
| NoctisBE | The same monitor works with an rgb2hdmi, but I can try a different monitor | 14:28 |
| NoctisBE | Yep, although I was confused with the 4mb/2mb versions. I tried the 4mb version from the mnt repository | 14:29 |
| NoctisBE | I'll try a TV with HDMI input | 14:30 |
| apolkosnik[m] | if you have a memory expansion, you might be better off with 2MB version | 14:30 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Don't try to "clean" connectors with DeOxit (just stating preemptively) | 14:32 |
| apolkosnik[m] | At this stage, your problem seems to be limited to the video capture system, e.g. the card that goes into video slot + the flat cable (I replaced mine with a straight floppy cable on my A3000 and A4000) | 14:34 |
| NoctisBE | There's a tf534 in this machine | 14:35 |
| NoctisBE | not sure if that matters | 14:36 |
| apolkosnik[m] | try booting without it and see if anything changes | 14:36 |
| NoctisBE | Tried with a TV now, which states it's getting an 800x600, 60hz signal | 14:36 |
| NoctisBE | I'll try | 14:37 |
| apolkosnik[m] | I recall that there was a special TF fw for some TF cards to make them play nice with A2000, but I don't remember the details anymore | 14:38 |
| NoctisBE | Hm. Honestly never had issues with the TF | 14:41 |
| NoctisBE | With the standard 68k cpu I get the same issue. Also tried replacing the flatcable with a straight floppy one, but still the same. Think it would help if I try cleaning the video slot with IPA? | 14:48 |
| apolkosnik[m] | It may help | 14:55 |
| NoctisBE | Also this particular machine has a Super Denise. I vaguely recall issues with the rgb2hdmi on some machines with that specific chip. Not sure if the zz9000 had similar things going on? | 14:56 |
| apolkosnik[m] | On your video, it looks like it's loosing sync signal. | 14:57 |
| apolkosnik[m] | You can try also older firmwares and see if it changes anything | 14:59 |
| NoctisBE | What's the difference between the 2mb and 4mb firmware versions? | 15:01 |
| _Bnu | One gives you 2MB of video RAM and the other gives you 4MB. | 15:16 |
| _Bnu | Also, I'm pretty sure the RGB2HDMI upscales everything to 1080p60? YouTube video very much looks like the monitor can't handle the video signal. | 15:18 |
| minute | _Bnu: we're sending you an AX | 15:19 |
| minute | _Bnu: i assume you did not move to another house | 15:19 |
| minute | _Bnu: you should have gotten a tracking email? | 15:20 |
| NoctisBE | OK it's definitely not the monitor. I have a semi-stable image now with a flicker now and then. But the machine has been running for 10 minutes or so. This may be a long shot but... Is it possible that I need to replace some caps on the mainboard? I see a few electrolytical ones right next to the video slot | 15:20 |
| NoctisBE | https://youtu.be/goaJZyi6zGs | 15:26 |
| _Bnu | No, I haven't moved, hahah. I doubt I'd be able to afford to live anywhere else. | 15:29 |
| NoctisBE | I'm checking the A2K schematics now if those caps have anything to do with the video circuitry. The RGB2HDMI board I used is one that piggybacks off the Denise chip. | 15:30 |
| NoctisBE | Sorry for infodumping here btw, I'm kind of rubber ducky-ing :p | 15:30 |
| apolkosnik[m] | NoctisBE: any chance you can put back regular Denise in there and try again? | 15:34 |
| apolkosnik[m] | or try the A500+ fw | 15:34 |
| NoctisBE | I don't have a regular denise | 15:34 |
| NoctisBE | it's the one that came with this machine | 15:35 |
| NoctisBE | I can try thr a500+ fw | 15:35 |
| NoctisBE | the* | 15:35 |
| NoctisBE | The a500+ firmware gives me weird colours | 15:39 |
| apolkosnik[m] | but does the display goes blank or is it OK? | 15:41 |
| NoctisBE | It's still like it gives me sync issues, along with the background being black and the kickstart boing ball being yellow | 15:43 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Oh, so on the latest video that you posted it looks like you are just getting some interference | 15:43 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Lol, go back to A2k fw | 15:44 |
| _Bnu | Weird, you definitely shouldn't be getting weird colors with the 500+ firmware if it is indeed a Super Denise. | 15:45 |
| _Bnu | Wait, hold on. | 15:46 |
| _Bnu | You're using the video slot, right? | 15:46 |
| NoctisBE | I am, yes | 15:46 |
| _Bnu | In that case, you can't really use the A500 or A500+ firmware. You might need some different phase offset, but that's different. | 15:46 |
| apolkosnik[m] | You'd see some artifacts on straight lines | 15:49 |
| NoctisBE | Hmm. Just reinstalled the latest fw, and it's definitely losing sync. Just not consistently now | 15:49 |
| NoctisBE | Still not sure if this is hardware related or firmware | 15:50 |
| NoctisBE | The caps I meant earlier are for composite sync apparently | 15:54 |
| NoctisBE | wait no. Those are for vcc for the hy200 (vidiot) chip. I doubt that's the issue | 15:56 |
| NoctisBE | I'm honestly grasping at straws atm | 15:57 |
| apolkosnik[m] | can you try booting into the early startup menu and switching between PAL and NTSC? | 16:00 |
| apolkosnik[m] | power off, hold both mouse buttons, then power on | 16:00 |
| NoctisBE | ok so, the early startup seems stable. If I select ntsc and click "boot" to go back to kickstart, it loses sync again. Not sure if it reverts back to pal at that point though | 16:09 |
| NoctisBE | But the moment I enter early startup, everything is stable, even without selecting ntsc | 16:09 |
| apolkosnik[m] | you can hit space in the boot menu screen and it will switch between PAL and NTSC on the spot | 16:10 |
| NoctisBE | I'll record it, sec | 16:11 |
| NoctisBE | https://youtu.be/7nbCabW4Z1Y | 16:15 |
| NoctisBE | So early startup works perfectly in both PAL and NTSC | 16:16 |
| NoctisBE | this is with firmware 1.9 btw. Not sure if kick 3.2 does some weird shenanigans, resolution/refreshrate-wise | 16:17 |
| NoctisBE | I think I'm just going to try and install the rest of the hardware now, and reinstall Workbench | 16:21 |
| NoctisBE | if it's just the kickstart that's being weird it's not the end of the world :p | 16:21 |
| - xet7 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~xet7@user/xet7) | 16:59 | |
| - mnemotron (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (mnemotron@194.135.47.239) | 17:45 | |
| pasik | hmm, which firmware fixed the broken sync ? | 17:46 |
| pasik | i can't remember the exact version | 17:46 |
| pasik | but sync was totally broken on a number of dell displays for example | 17:46 |
| Jope | that was quite some time ago.. | 17:47 |
| Jope | wish I kept logs | 17:47 |
| pasik | i think it was 1.8 that fixed it | 17:48 |
| pasik | or actually, when checking the release notes | 17:48 |
| pasik | it's probably 1.9.1 that fixed it | 17:48 |
| pasik | NoctisBE: so if you're running 1.9 you need to upgrade | 17:49 |
| Jope | best to just run the latest anyway? | 17:50 |
| pasik | yup | 17:51 |
| minute | NoctisBE: the A500+ firmware only works with the denise adapter (it uses composite sync) | 19:36 |
| minute | NoctisBE: on your first video it looks like hsync is breaking off due to interference perhaps? does it change if you route the videoslot cable somehow differently? | 19:37 |
| + xet7 (~xet7@user/xet7) | 20:02 | |
| - NoctisBE (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~NoctisBE@d54c34cde.access.telenet.be) | 23:29 | |
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