| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 00:21 | |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 00:28 | |
| + xet7 (~xet7@user/xet7) | 06:00 | |
| forcie | minute: unfortunately, exactly the same stuttering with the new firmware and .audio | 06:41 |
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| _Bnu | apolkosnik: Just "fintro-gcc" in snakes9000. | 07:05 |
| + mnemotron (mnemotron@194.135.47.239) | 07:59 | |
| minute | forcie: thanks, you have 040 on... which amiga again? | 09:51 |
| forcie | 040 on A4000D | 09:51 |
| forcie | full 040, no mmu-libs loaded | 09:52 |
| forcie | could try turning caches off tonight, havent tried if that changes anything | 09:52 |
| minute | forcie: what accelerator is that? | 09:53 |
| minute | i'm wondering if it's maybe IRQ related... need to make a test program for that | 09:53 |
| forcie | minute: Apollo 4040, with official ACT 68040.library. apollos run very bad without them :) | 09:55 |
| minute | oh ok, that's not something i can easily reproduce then | 09:56 |
| minute | can i send you a test program later? | 09:57 |
| minute | forcie: also, axmp3, does it have the same stuttering? | 09:58 |
| forcie | minute: yes, exactly the same phenomenon | 11:27 |
| forcie | minute: happy to try out testcases, will be home around 6 PM | 11:27 |
| minute | forcie: thanks, so perhaps some interrupts are skipped or they come too late. do you have other zorro cards? | 11:27 |
| minute | i'm trying to make an irq + underrun testing tool | 11:28 |
| forcie | yes, Elbox FastATA 4000 | 11:28 |
| minute | ah, i guess you boot from that one? | 11:28 |
| forcie | exactly | 11:28 |
| forcie | connected to a CF card. | 11:28 |
| minute | ok, thanks | 11:29 |
| minute | forcie: could you run this and tell me what kind of numbers you get? http://dump.mntmn.com/axtest | 12:30 |
| _Bnu | minute: I haven't looked at the interrupt server code, but is it checking some FPGA register to see if it was the card that generated the IRQ? (And clearing that register/flag when handling it.) | 12:38 |
| norly | minute: huge thanks for finally fixing the mysterious CSmk1 issue! | 13:47 |
| minute | _Bnu: yes it is | 13:49 |
| minute | norly: you're welcome, did you test it? | 13:50 |
| minute | forcie: what AmigaOS/kickstart are you using? 3.2? | 13:50 |
| norly | minute: no, my a4000 is tucked away unfortunately | 13:50 |
| forcie | minute: 3.9 kickstart but most of userland is from 3.1. | 13:51 |
| norly | no time for amiga stuff these days, but i'm still peeking at irc occasionally :) | 13:51 |
| + buckket (~buckket@pdp8.buckket.org) | 14:35 | |
| minute | tested with 3.1.4 roms now, but still works fine here | 14:37 |
| minute | guess i have to burn 3.2 roms | 14:37 |
| minute | ah, hyperion does not sell these directly anymore | 14:38 |
| minute | wtf it's a CD | 14:39 |
| minute | i do not have a CD-ROM | 14:39 |
| + Nowee (~NoweeEewo@lfbn-ncy-1-4-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) | 15:08 | |
| minute | erasing some eproms | 15:16 |
| mnemotron | You can get ROMs by resellers of 3.2. I ordered mine with ROMs at Aliena | 15:21 |
| mnemotron | https://www.amiga-shop.net/Amiga-Software/AmigaOS-Amiga-Betriebssysteme:::29_68.html | 15:21 |
| mnemotron | They offer upgrades and you can initially order ROMs here. https://www.amiga-shop.net/Amiga-Software/AmigaOS-Amiga-Betriebssysteme/AmigaOS-3-2::1068.html | 15:22 |
| mnemotron | and=or | 15:22 |
| mnemotron | gotta run | 15:22 |
| - mnemotron (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (mnemotron@194.135.47.239) | 15:22 | |
| minute | ah, nice3 | 15:24 |
| apolkosnik[m] | I you order 3.2, the most important thing is to keep the wrapper or at least take the picture of the label on the wrapper, as that's the number used for registering for the updates on hyperion website | 15:26 |
| apolkosnik[m] | *If you order | 15:26 |
| norly | absolutely! it looks almost like a bog standard EAN barcode sticker on the wrapper, but it's not! | 15:30 |
| Claude | heh no cdrom , but a eprom eraser and programmer :p but tbf I bought recently a usb dvd-r drive too. a friend asks me some times if I can burn a CD for him . how odd to deal with CDs as music media in a car , no tape deck?!? | 15:31 |
| norly | Claude, maybe he can get a CD adapter to hook up his phone's headphone jack - finally an upgrade path to spotify... | 15:33 |
| norly | you know, like those cassette adapters with a wire dangling off them, but in CD form | 15:34 |
| Claude | for lols I connected the dvdr to my phone . phone gets pretty hot supplying the current needed for the drive , but it shows up in the file manager . usb HDDs work too | 15:44 |
| Nowee | Haha. First thing I did with my Beamer has been to remove the old junk and put an android tab in there | 15:46 |
| minute | ok, 3.2 roms work with csmk1. interestingly, 3.1.4 roms die not work | 16:44 |
| minute | quite some fuckups now in the system... ed is like "Unable to open intuition, gadtools or asl.library" | 16:58 |
| minute | Picasso96 says can't open rtg.library | 16:58 |
| minute | why tho | 16:59 |
| minute | ah, made a mistake copying files | 17:10 |
| minute | ok everything works fine with OS3.2 | 17:15 |
| minute | ohh my warpengine is resurrected | 17:22 |
| minute | Chain-Q: meeting on saturday confirmed! | 17:59 |
| minute | i have tested with warpengine @ 96 mhz now, and OS3.2, everything works perfectly fine | 18:02 |
| minute | also tested with x-surf-100 | 18:02 |
| minute | so i hope CS-MK2 will create some problems here | 18:03 |
| forcie | minute: here is axtest output: https://pastebin.com/Rj6kDtKs | 18:07 |
| forcie | when outputting to shell some of them were over 100ms, but this is outputting to file | 18:08 |
| minute | oh thanks! | 18:10 |
| minute | > [irq] 43:164 ms | 18:10 |
| minute | > [irq] 352:39 ms | 18:10 |
| minute | > [irq] 478:99 ms | 18:10 |
| minute | i see 39 pretty often | 18:11 |
| minute | that looks like 1 interrupt skipped (because it's roughly x2) | 18:11 |
| minute | normally all of these should be 20ms (19ms is also ok i guess) | 18:11 |
| minute | maybe the interrupt pulses are too short and amiga is not always seeing them | 18:14 |
| minute | i'm making a new firmware with double the pulse length and a register to change it | 18:17 |
| forcie | cool, will be interesting to try out. as you say it seems like some timing issue | 18:17 |
| minute | yes. that's really helpful | 18:17 |
| forcie | i wonder what happened at #43 | 18:18 |
| forcie | must be several misses | 18:19 |
| forcie | the SANA-II interface seems a bit wonky now too, i had several crashes running just ftp. but i'm not sure if it is just the new beta firmware or having run the testcase | 18:21 |
| forcie | TCP/IP usually works well on this machine with the zz9k interface. | 18:22 |
| minute | hmm, unclear | 18:38 |
| minute | forcie: testing new firmware i'm going to send you, one moment | 18:47 |
| forcie | cool | 18:50 |
| forcie | my card reader (and body) is ready | 18:52 |
| minute | oh, everything is super slow now | 18:52 |
| minute | ok sorry i need a few more minutes, doing another round of firmware baking here | 18:59 |
| minute | testing | 19:06 |
| minute | sigh, managed to break it here ^^ | 19:13 |
| minute | ok, something can break the zz internal audio interrupt | 19:24 |
| minute | ermahgerd | 19:28 |
| minute | found one AX reset bug | 19:36 |
| forcie | :o | 19:44 |
| minute | fixed. just, rtg on this amiga is suddenly very slow, trying to figure that out | 19:51 |
| _Bnu | Working as intended. | 19:58 |
| minute | hehe | 20:01 |
| minute | not sure if OS3.2 related | 20:01 |
| + gdonner (gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 20:08 | |
| gdonner | not entirely related to slow RTG, but Warp cards have an interesting slow boot bug related to the csgfx.card and csgfx monitor files: | 20:10 |
| gdonner | "With csgfx in DEVS:Monitors it is ~42 seconds [to] boot; without csgfx in DEVS:Monitors it is ~18 seconds [to] boot. ... My guess is that the [csgfx].card driver somehow calls the scsi.device. ... Having a terminator in the MB IDE does remove the delay in the start, but still adds the extra time when P96 is started with csgfx.card through DEVS:Monitors/csgfx. I will make a ROM with HRTMON | 20:10 |
| gdonner | so I can see what is happening." | 20:10 |
| gdonner | unlikely that something like this affects the ZZ9000(?), but interesting either way | 20:11 |
| minute | forcie: i'm gonna give you my current BOOT.bin, could you tell me if this also makes RTG slow for you? or it's my OS3.2 stuff | 20:14 |
| gdonner | just odd that a P96 monitor file can (somehow?) influence boot time | 20:14 |
| minute | forcie: http://dump.mntmn.com/BOOT.bin-z3-20220427 | 20:15 |
| minute | forcie: i *can* play audio normally with this though | 20:15 |
| minute | forcie: just all kind of line drawing and text output things are slo-mo for me | 20:15 |
| forcie | minute: just tried it, RTG is normally fast for me, audio stuttering unchanged | 20:27 |
| forcie | paula passthrough working perfectly as usual | 20:28 |
| Chain-Q | minute: ACK, regarding saturday. want me to bring some other test HW there? meaning: will you stay for a bit, or you just come to pick up the MK2. either works for me, just what to expect. | 20:47 |
| forcie | hey, i just got SynergyClient from UHCtools to work with barrier compiled for macos. awesome | 21:14 |
| - gdonner (QUIT: ) (gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 22:43 | |
| - Nowee (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~NoweeEewo@lfbn-ncy-1-4-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) | 22:44 | |
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