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| apolkosnik[m] | and that fixed it | 05:19 |
| _Bnu | Have you considered setting fire to the computer instead... | 05:39 |
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| Jadek | hi Amiga fans! | 06:01 |
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| forcie | successfully installed ZZ9000AX | 19:25 |
| forcie | paula passtrough works great, but both AHI 4.18 and axmp3 is super choppy | 19:26 |
| forcie | firmware 1.10 and latest drivers | 19:26 |
| forcie | does not seem to matter which mixing rate i pick, even stuff that handled pseudo-14bit paula ahi modes chops | 19:29 |
| forcie | so i guess there might be something wrong on the linux side | 19:35 |
| forcie | or possibly something else, of course :) | 19:52 |
| forcie | A4000/040 with a apollo 4040 | 19:53 |
| forcie | axmp3-32meg is equally choppy | 20:57 |
| minute | forcie: maybe i can crosscompile another driver from home with some fixes by tomsoniq | 21:10 |
| minute | forcie: there is no linux btw | 21:10 |
| forcie | sorry, i meant ARM side. | 21:21 |
| forcie | and please do not interupt your vacation if you do not want to :) | 21:22 |
| minute | forcie: do you have am amiga gcc crosscompiler setup? | 21:26 |
| forcie | not atm, i guess i could setup bebbos on macos | 21:29 |
| minute | forcie: if you can, that would be great, then you could compile the driver and i can prepare a branch with the patch from here | 21:29 |
| forcie | building | 21:30 |
| minute | ah, actually thomas even put a precompiled .audio into the archive | 21:36 |
| minute | wanna try? http://dump.mntmn.com/zz9000ax-ahi-tomsoniq.lha | 21:36 |
| forcie | oh cool | 21:36 |
| forcie | might as well since gcc takes a while to build | 21:37 |
| forcie | and i guess that is with the patch? | 21:38 |
| forcie | installed | 21:41 |
| forcie | rebooting | 21:41 |
| minute | yes, should be the patched one | 21:41 |
| minute | here is the diff https://source.mnt.re/amiga/zz9000-drivers/-/merge_requests/8/diffs?commit_id=68701933fd65be15462f45fe60dbaade1f651733 | 21:43 |
| forcie | unfortunately it does not seem to change the behaviour, everything played through AHI or axmp3 is choppy | 21:44 |
| forcie | sounds like buffer underruns or such | 21:45 |
| minute | ah yes i know the choppiness problem | 21:46 |
| minute | i had this shortly before release on Z2, but then it just went away, couldn't reproduce it, so i thought it was just a fluke | 21:46 |
| forcie | i do not think i have any special AHI-related patches | 21:46 |
| minute | apparently it popped up for a bunch of people though | 21:46 |
| minute | i think it might be a timing problem related to the audio ringbuffer in zz9000 | 21:46 |
| forcie | also, the card makes a recognisable three-click noise when the card boots up | 21:47 |
| minute | that is good | 21:47 |
| minute | that noise is the DSP program being uploaded | 21:47 |
| forcie | once i managed to boot without the click, then there was no audio, so i guess it missed the init sequence then :) | 21:47 |
| minute | yes, sounds like | 21:47 |
| minute | all of this will be fixed btw | 21:48 |
| forcie | sure, happy to help out with any testing. | 21:48 |
| minute | it's just a rough start and then i had to take some time off | 21:48 |
| minute | the hardware itself is fine so it's just a matter of fixing some fw + driver bugs | 21:48 |
| forcie | at least i should be able to try out source patches directly with the crosscompiler :) | 21:49 |
| minute | nice | 21:50 |
| minute | forcie: you could try (if you don't mind some mind numbing monotony) to cold start like 10 times to see if the choppy problem goes away | 21:51 |
| forcie | i'll give it a shot | 21:53 |
| forcie | most of the times i have to softreset once for my IDE controller to wake up, so i'm not sure it will be effective | 21:55 |
| minute | interesting | 22:04 |
| minute | not sure if soft reset makes a difference though | 22:05 |
| forcie | looks like i can build stuff in zz9000-drivers okay | 22:15 |
| neoman` | minute, do you have an idea why I hear paula output on AUX? | 22:17 |
| * neoman` -> neoman | 22:18 | |
| minute | neoman: yes, because the 2-pin cable going to MIO is probably wrong | 22:21 |
| minute | neoman: like, connected in the wrong way | 22:21 |
| neoman | hrrrm I'm very sure it isn't but I'll check again :) | 22:22 |
| minute | neoman: double check that cable | 22:22 |
| neoman | ok | 22:22 |
| minute | (at least that was exactly the problem of one other user) | 22:22 |
| minute | it means that ZZ9000AX is not detected over I2C and thus the DSP firmware not uploaded, so it runs in the default configuration | 22:22 |
| minute | (factory default) | 22:23 |
| neoman | ok, yes my fault :) | 22:29 |
| neoman | thanks! | 22:29 |
| neoman | works, sound is fine! | 22:29 |
| minute | neoman: awesome! | 22:30 |
| minute | neoman: what was the mistake? | 22:30 |
| neoman | I connected the cable the wrong way around. | 22:31 |
| neoman | =/ | 22:31 |
| minute | ah yes, same as the other person | 22:31 |
| neoman | stupid me :) | 22:31 |
| minute | well, can easily happen | 22:31 |
| neoman | now I can hear a bit of the "krächzen" you describe in the a1k thread | 22:32 |
| minute | what kind of playback did you try? | 22:33 |
| neoman | I cross-check some mods in delitracker right now | 22:34 |
| minute | AHI? Paula? how many kHz? | 22:34 |
| neoman | just Paula. also the LINE Output feels around 20% louder | 22:35 |
| neoman | compared to the A4000 board output | 22:35 |
| minute | hmm, that's possible due to the amplifiers and it goes through ADC->DSP->DAC | 22:36 |
| minute | later we can adjust the volume and possibly EQ/filter it in the DSP | 22:36 |
| neoman | hmm so I compared both channels with my mixer and somehow the AX output seems 20%-30% louder but then it's clipped also | 22:40 |
| minute | is the clipping also present via AHI? | 22:42 |
| minute | i wonder if it's a dsp initialization issue then | 22:42 |
| minute | if it's the same clipping i heard, it was very present in the bass sounds of castle master.mod for example | 22:43 |
| neoman | hmm I can make a small recording... one sec | 22:43 |
| neoman | https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=56181 - it's this one btw | 22:44 |
| neoman | https://codeamiga.org/ax1.png | 22:48 |
| neoman | top ax, bottom onboard | 22:48 |
| neoman | also I see a DC offset on your output | 22:48 |
| neoman | oh wtf | 22:49 |
| neoman | need to make a new one because I mixed up L and R :-) but yes it's still too loud | 22:49 |
| minute | oh yeah, that looks amplified | 22:52 |
| minute | neoman: can you do the same recording for AHI? | 22:53 |
| minute | through AHI i mean | 22:54 |
| neoman | it's quite strange because my onboard paula output doesn't seem to be fully separated .... | 22:54 |
| neoman | yes I need to try the AHI noteplayer for that | 22:54 |
| neoman | but well as long as you can see what's going on :) | 22:54 |
| minute | i think the paula audio that we get from the video slot is before the analog filter on the amiga | 22:54 |
| + gdonner (gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 22:55 | |
| neoman | aaah ok | 22:55 |
| minute | neoman: there is also supposed to be filtered audio on the other side of AAUD (if you mirror the connector (GND is in the middle of the five pins)) | 22:56 |
| minute | but in my experiments it sounded weird, at least on A3000 | 22:56 |
| neoman | but I guess you can also see something which looks like a DC offset. well it isn't, it's just that negative amplitudes seem to be more amplified | 22:56 |
| gdonner | Thanks for the patched ZZ9000AX.audio file from Thomas--getting audio now, though still issues of course (choppy, etc.) but those are known | 22:56 |
| gdonner | What comes through sounds pretty impressive! | 22:57 |
| minute | gdonner: which kHz rate have you setup in prefs? | 22:57 |
| minute | in AHI prefs | 22:57 |
| minute | or your player | 22:57 |
| gdonner | 32000 | 22:57 |
| minute | gdonner: by choppy, do you mean gaps in the audio? | 22:57 |
| neoman | minute, here's the link to the WAV if you need it, https://codeamiga.org/ax1_paula.wav | 22:57 |
| gdonner | yes | 22:57 |
| neoman | I will try to record the AHI version now | 22:57 |
| minute | gdonner: is that a zorro 2 or 3 system, and what cpu? | 22:57 |
| gdonner | Z3, 68040 | 22:57 |
| minute | oh, amiga intro now @ revision | 22:58 |
| minute | (twitch.tv/revisionparty) | 22:58 |
| minute | gdonner: ok hmmmm... does it get better at 24khz or 12khz? the choppiness i mean | 22:58 |
| gdonner | hmm; let me try BRB | 22:58 |
| pasik | minute: or ccc stream: https://streaming.media.ccc.de/revision/revision | 22:59 |
| minute | pasik: correct! | 22:59 |
| minute | watching on twitch because my ps4 can easily do that ;) | 22:59 |
| norly | AMIGAAAAAAA | 23:01 |
| neoman | haha norly :D | 23:01 |
| minute | yes | 23:02 |
| norly | hi neoman | 23:02 |
| gdonner | OK; set AHI Prefs to 12000 Hz, saved, loaded AmigaAMP, but it locked up the system when I tried opening an MP3 | 23:02 |
| minute | gdonner: were you able to play the same mp3s through paula? | 23:03 |
| gdonner | let me try | 23:04 |
| gdonner | yes, I can (using Paula 8-bit stereo, 12000 Hz)--shorter interruptions in the audio, but lower quality of course | 23:11 |
| minute | ok, but also with gaps? then the cpu is not powerful enough for the playback | 23:12 |
| gdonner | yeah | 23:13 |
| minute | rather wait for an MHI driver then to decode the mp3 on the ZZ | 23:13 |
| gdonner | ok | 23:13 |
| minute | (or try axmp3?) | 23:13 |
| gdonner | it's only a 25 MHz 040 | 23:13 |
| minute | ahhh yeah ok | 23:13 |
| minute | and mod playback through AHI, does that work? | 23:13 |
| gdonner | yes, very nicely | 23:14 |
| minute | cool! | 23:14 |
| minute | then it behaves as expected | 23:14 |
| neoman | minute: recording AHI... | 23:15 |
| minute | wow this intro rules @ revision | 23:15 |
| neoman | same song via AHI-NotePlayer genie on DeliTracker | 23:15 |
| neoman | yeah it's cool :D | 23:16 |
| neoman | and it's differen t:) | 23:17 |
| minute | yeah | 23:18 |
| gdonner | an MHI driver would be very welcome! | 23:20 |
| minute | yeah, i'm gonna consult thomas w on that once everything else is stable | 23:21 |
| minute | gdonner: did axmp3 work for you? | 23:22 |
| minute | gdonner: i.e. this version http://dump.mntmn.com/axmp3-32meg | 23:23 |
| neoman | minute: https://codeamiga.org/ax2.png | 23:24 |
| neoman | AHI sounds good. | 23:24 |
| gdonner | no; I tried the AXMP3-32meg, but no audio through line OUT | 23:25 |
| minute | neoman: cool, thank you! | 23:25 |
| minute | gdonner: hmm, ok, thanks for trying | 23:25 |
| gdonner | sure thing | 23:25 |
| neoman | and here's the wav: https://codeamiga.org/ax_secret_island_ahi.wav | 23:25 |
| neoman | cute 4k | 23:44 |
| neoman | (even if PC =p) | 23:44 |
| minute | yeah | 23:44 |
| norly | definitely | 23:46 |
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