2021-11-05.log

+ hackerdude (~david@184-23-212-166.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net)00:03
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+ my_pc_is_amiga (~my_pc_is_@c-71-197-66-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)05:24
my_pc_is_amigaIn regards to Video Toaster sync-ing issue with ZZ9000 (http://www.gregdonner.org/zz9000/supporttroubleshooting.html -- "Split screen with Video Toaster",   I found this info: http://amiga.resource.cx/manual/SyncStrainer.pdf05:26
my_pc_is_amigawhich is saying that when Toaster loads and enables Genlock that the VSYNC and HSYNC signals goes to 7.8KHz05:28
my_pc_is_amigabut CSYNC does not and is at 15.7KHz ... so I suppose this could be reason for the sync issue zz9000 that is expecting 15.7Khz on VSYNC and HSYNC when Toaster is loaded?   And the CSYNC is not connected to ZZ9000 and so I guess is not being used?   So would it still be possible for the ZZ9000 scandoubler to use 7.8KHz?05:32
my_pc_is_amigaI would be willing to test if anything is possible here...05:32
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+ my_pc_is_amiga (~my_pc_is_@c-71-197-66-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)14:36
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+ gdonner (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net)18:42
gdonnerA1K.org user sheds some light on the A2000 J300 issue: https://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?threads/66615/post-153193918:54
gdonner(web translated) "J300 switches between tick from power supply vs, Vsync as clock source. Has nothing to do with PAL/NTSC."18:55
gdonnerbut interesting that it's still switching back and forth between PAL and NTSC in the UART18:55
gdonnerso something's apparently related?18:56
gdonnerbut FWIW, interesting19:21
gdonnerand odd that some Amiga PSUs use the tick, and others don't19:22
tryphoncosinusTrue, the understanding remains messy. Moreover, the simple A2320 flickerfixer PicassoIV work great with internal ticks. ZZ9000 should be able to manage internal ticks. Maybe something is missing in the firmware code.20:00
_BnuReally, I don't care if it "has nothing" to do with PAL/NTSC.20:00
_BnuIt keeps switching back and forth between ~50 and ~60 Hz on the video output.20:00
_BnuSo they can say whatever they want about it.20:00
_BnuThe reason I know this is because I have equipment to monitor it, one of the easiest/basic things to do so with being the OSSC.20:01
_BnuTo me, it's definitely the computer being unable to decide if it should keep the video output at PAL or NTSC refresh rate, for some reason.20:02
_BnuKnowing the root cause as to why one of the two tick sources don't work would be infinitely more interesting.20:02
tryphoncosinusI tested 2 A2000 rev 6.2 + ZZ9000 having exactly the same behavior and I am in contact with someone else having same config and same trouble. This is highly reproducible.20:06
gdonner_Bnu: yeah, it pretty clearly has an affect on video, so I'm not sure what that user had in mind when he said that20:12
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