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| apolkosnik[m] | I think that I 'm going to put my CS MK1 in a junk pile for a while... | 00:07 |
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| apolkosnik[m] | Using nodma driver | 00:08 |
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| _Bnu | Looks fine... | 00:36 |
| apolkosnik[m] | More than good enough for a thing that can't play minecraft | 00:37 |
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| mntmn | apolkosnik[m]: nodma does not work for csmk1 | 10:26 |
| mntmn | apolkosnik[m]: there is some trouble with arm register reads or writes with csmk1 (i also test with one). i have a new dtack timeout register also, it might help to fix this | 10:27 |
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| _Bnu | mntmn: I think I got it figured out now, the 24bpp modes are actual 32bpp RGBX/BGRX. | 11:53 |
| _Bnu | Actually*. | 11:53 |
| mntmn | are you working on BIF_BLITTER support? | 11:54 |
| mntmn | or what'ssss the context | 11:54 |
| _Bnu | https://gist.github.com/beeanyew/63d581aeeb2da8210d08477590e59d2e | 11:55 |
| _Bnu | Yes, by enabling that flag P96 believes that you will be handling a bunch of conversion between formats when blitting things. | 11:56 |
| _Bnu | Tom-Cat on Discord has been testing it with the PiStorm RTG, since I can't do much at the moment. | 11:56 |
| _Bnu | But you can add something like that to the ZZ9000 driver, and it should work as well. Otherwise you'll get some spectacularly broken graphics in some things, like the buttons in iBrowse. | 11:58 |
| _Bnu | And if you add 15-bit to that mix, it'll also need something on the ARM side to blit 15bpp bitmaps to other format destinations. | 11:58 |
| _Bnu | For instance AmiDock uses 15bpp images for some reason. | 11:58 |
| _Bnu | (So if WB is in a 16 or 32bpp mode, P96 will expect your video card to blit that straight from 15bpp to the destination format.) | 12:02 |
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| mntmn | _Bnu: yeah, i've seen these incredibly broken things and that's why i removed the flag again | 13:19 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: i had already stubbed 15 bit functions in the arm gfx functions by just pretending they were 16 bit ;B | 13:19 |
| mntmn | but no conversions | 13:19 |
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| tryphoncosinus | Hi, it seems there is more activity here than with classical emails to report an issue :) | 14:13 |
| tryphoncosinus | I received the card with no damage on the box. I use A2000 rev 6.2, ROM 3.1, TekMagic 060, 128 MB RAM, PicassoIV, NTSC. I prepared a fresh install of AmigaOS 3.9 + Roadshow + Picasso96 2.0 + Altais on an empty CF card. The OS loading is really fast. With this configuration, I only used the Picasso scandoubler with Denise. No issue there. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | I pulled out the PicassoIV with its scandoubler and replaced it with the ZZ9000 and ZZ9000CX. SD card contains 1.9.1 firmware. After switching ON, I see a short green color on my monitor then a blinking screen displaying the Early Startup. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | I tried 3 different monitors and the issue is the same : the image is not stable switching with black screen. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | I pulled out the ZZ9000CX and seated it again. No more luck. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | One of the monitors (Dell UP3216Q) supports these frequencies : | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | Horizontal scan range 30 kHz to 140 kHz (automatic) | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | Vertical scan range 24 Hz to 75 Hz (automatic) | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | That should be ok with the ZZ9000. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | When the OS starts (first boot), it loads then waits about 1 minute (ZZ9000 boot?) then finishes to show up the Workbench screen. The image is not stable and the monitor does not show frequency issue. I installed the ZZ9000 driver. The installer suggested installing a 60 Hz configuration. I said yes. The computer was rebooted. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | Within Prefs/Screenmode, I tried many ZZ9000 presets. The image becomes almost stable (rare black screens) but the pointer does not work! Even with the keyboard (Amiga key + arrows), the pointer is stuck. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | I tried a second A2000 rev 6.2 + ZZ9000 + 68030 + 4 Mo fast ram (also NTSC). The Early Startup image is jerky and scrolling down all the time. 28014 board is reported as Defective. the screen does not switch to black at the beginning but after several minutes, the screen behavior is the same as with my other A2000. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | A long time after the power is switched ON, the native amiga screen is black almost all the time in both my A2000s + ZZ9000. | 14:14 |
| tryphoncosinus | I would like to play with my ZZ9000 but it is not possible right now :'( | 14:16 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: most people that have trouble seem to have DELL monitors | 14:16 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: but the question is, is it a monitor problem or a scandoubler problem | 14:16 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: what if you press space in early startup to switch to PAL? does it change? | 14:17 |
| tryphoncosinus | Yes and I tried Acer and I-INC monitors also that work with Picasso IV | 14:17 |
| tryphoncosinus | Space bar makes change sometimes so that I was able to understand that video signal was there. | 14:18 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Kickstart 3.2 also has 31 kHz mode if you press enter | 14:18 |
| tryphoncosinus | I don't have 3.2 KS | 14:19 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Just saying... | 14:19 |
| mntmn | 31khz mode is not supported apolkosnik[m] | 14:20 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Ok, so it would not go into pass-through | 14:20 |
| mntmn | apolkosnik[m]: nope | 14:21 |
| tryphoncosinus | None of my monitors reported signal break or out of range frequencies. Video signal is there even if the image is black most of the time. | 14:22 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: can you try firmware 1.7 beta 3 for zorro2 instead? https://mntre.com/media/ZZ9000_info_md/zz9000-firmware-archive/zz9000-firmware-archive.html | 14:22 |
| apolkosnik[m] | tryphoncosinus which firmware do you have on the micro SD? | 14:22 |
| tryphoncosinus | Sure. I am doing ... | 14:22 |
| apolkosnik[m] | The boot.bin | 14:22 |
| tryphoncosinus | Now is 1.9.1 | 14:22 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Standard Z2? | 14:23 |
| tryphoncosinus | yes | 14:27 |
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| tryphoncosinus | 1.7 beta 3 (boot.bin) is on the SD card. ZZ9000 does not seem to boot on it. Is green light as HDD loght on the board? Screen is black. | 14:43 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: ok, thanks for trying. there is one last thing to test | 14:48 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: 1.8 https://source.mnt.re/amiga/zz9000-firmware/-/releases/1.8 | 14:48 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: can you give it a try? | 14:49 |
| tryphoncosinus | Done with 1.8. boot.bin seems to boot then AmigaOS loads normally but screen is black and the monitor does not return any error. | 15:03 |
| tryphoncosinus | Image is also black for Early startup menu. | 15:03 |
| tryphoncosinus | Space bar does nothing | 15:04 |
| tryphoncosinus | Just to be sure : when Amiga is powered on, the screen displays a slightly light dark image. | 15:05 |
| tryphoncosinus | With 1.7 : light dark image appears then a smaller and lighter dark image follows (but boot.bin 1.7 does not load). | 15:07 |
| _Bnu | mntmn: Yeah, if you add my GetCompatibleModes thing, they'll probably be unbroken again. | 15:15 |
| _Bnu | But in general, it seems easier to just let P96 adapt 15bpp... | 15:16 |
| _Bnu | It's used so rarely. | 15:16 |
| _Bnu | (ShapeShifter gets a speed boost at 16bpp with the blitter enabled anyway.) | 15:18 |
| _Bnu | I saw that you forwarded some emails about it now that I think about it, but that was when I was in the hospital and I couldn't really read or do anything, lolb. | 15:18 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: do you have another monitor connected on the normal rgb video out? this way you can check if RTG modes work | 15:27 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: can you try the 1.8 with another monitor (non dell)? | 15:27 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: i see @ 15bpp | 15:28 |
| tryphoncosinus | Done with a SyncMaster 214T, 30-81 kHz, 56-75 Hz. I did not use my CRT since a very long time. I will shortly take time to pull it from storage at basement. I tried again my A2320 scandoubler and it works like a charm with this fourth monitor. I have a 5th and 6th monitors I could try : NEC multisync and SyncMaster 226. | 16:47 |
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| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: all monitors you tried just show black image? btw you could try unplugging the zz9000 scandoubler and ~only~ use the RTG part at first while using your working scandoubler with another monitor. just to be able to debug things | 16:57 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: then you don't need to haul your CRT | 16:57 |
| mntmn | tryphoncosinus: this way you could boot with 1.9.1 and do the bustest and some other tests | 16:57 |
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| cerv | Hello I have just quick question. Is there something to switch on to boot from USB? I can see it now in WB when booting from SCSI. But cant see it when booting and pressing both mouse buttons. | 22:27 |
| cerv | USB is 4 GB FFS | 22:29 |
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