| + hackerdude (~hackerdud@184-23-212-166.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) | 00:08 | |
| + KK (~KK@93-136-162-85.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 00:27 | |
| - RobDangerous (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f0dd200f41a7c05376d5faf.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 00:29 | |
| - hackerdude (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~hackerdud@184-23-212-166.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) | 01:51 | |
| - KK (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~KK@93-136-162-85.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 04:23 | |
| - xet7 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~xet7@user/xet7) | 06:39 | |
| + xet7 (~xet7@user/xet7) | 06:40 | |
| + TuKo (~tuko@46-126-211-54.dynamic.hispeed.ch) | 07:31 | |
| + RobDangerous (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f188700297d2af516165db0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 09:59 | |
| + bfarmilo_ (~bfarmilo@202.56.40.240) | 18:04 | |
| - bfarmilo__ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~bfarmilo@202.56.40.240) | 18:06 | |
| + gdonner (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 18:07 | |
| gdonner | Anyone else missing the new 1600x1200 screenmode from 1.9 release? The other two modes show in the list, but not that one for some reason. | 18:08 |
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| gdonner | Also, not sure if it's my monitor, but the 720x480 mode does some weird stuff on my Dell U2211H: | 18:09 |
| gdonner | https://www.gregdonner.org/transfer/720x480.jpg | 18:10 |
| gdonner | Latest firmware and drivers installed | 18:11 |
| - neoman (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~neoman@titandemo.org) | 18:21 | |
| gdonner | using P96 3.1.2 | 18:21 |
| - apolkosnik[m] (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~apolkosni@2001:470:69fc:105::ff7) | 18:21 | |
| gdonner | (just in case that matters) | 18:21 |
| + neoman (~neoman@titandemo.org) | 18:24 | |
| gdonner | @_Bnu and mntmn: Many thanks for the new screen modes! :) You made my day | 18:29 |
| gdonner | (after the bugs are worked out lol) | 18:29 |
| mntmn | hehe | 18:34 |
| mntmn | gdonner: yeah your monitor can't do this mode then i guess | 18:34 |
| mntmn | gdonner: hmm did i forget to include the 1600 mode in the prefs file? :0 | 18:35 |
| + apolkosnik[m] (~apolkosni@2001:470:69fc:105::ff7) | 18:38 | |
| gdonner | not sure; I don't see it in my screenmodes prefs? the other two modes are there | 18:38 |
| apolkosnik[m] | The 1600x1200 is awesome, I had to plug my A4000 into my 4k monitor, and it looks phenomenal | 18:39 |
| gdonner | my Dell does fully support that mode too (75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz, 162.0 MHz) | 18:39 |
| gdonner | sync polarity +/+ | 18:39 |
| gdonner | I'll take another look through the screenmodes just in case I missed it | 18:40 |
| mntmn | apolkosnik[m]: so 1600x1200 was in your modes list yeah? | 18:40 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Oh, wait I'm actually using 2560x1440 | 18:41 |
| mntmn | haha!! | 18:41 |
| mntmn | well that's another story | 18:41 |
| mntmn | it's the native resolution of my eizo | 18:41 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Nah, I was wrong, 1600x1200 was not on my mode list | 18:42 |
| gdonner | ah good; not just me :) | 18:43 |
| apolkosnik[m] | I really dislike the fact that P96 doesn't have any nice way to show you the version | 18:45 |
| apolkosnik[m] | I think that I have 3.1.2 | 18:46 |
| mntmn | ok my mistake then :| | 18:47 |
| mntmn | you can create the resolution yourself btw | 18:47 |
| mntmn | just create a new one in p96mode and set it to 1600 x 1200 | 18:47 |
| mntmn | and make a 8 bit and 16 bit mode | 18:48 |
| gdonner | ok thanks; I assume any new release will fix that | 18:48 |
| gdonner | BTW, I get a near instant guru on my A3000 on cold boots; subsequent reboot loads Workbench fine | 18:49 |
| gdonner | will try to grab a photo/vid of the guru | 18:49 |
| mntmn | :0 | 18:49 |
| gdonner | I'm suspecting some kind of AutoConfig issue, seeing as it happens almost instantly | 18:50 |
| gdonner | might be my system though--don't want to assume too much | 18:51 |
| apolkosnik[m] | It wasn't hard to add it | 18:54 |
| apolkosnik[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (231KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/eafDTjIwtAoubhQbZRchTEYe/PXL_20211007_165512032.jpg > | 18:55 |
| - RobDangerous (QUIT: Quit: RobDangerous) (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f188700297d2af516165db0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 18:56 | |
| mntmn | ok cool... i'm updating the ZZ9000Installer1_9.lha | 18:56 |
| gdonner | I captured some footage (will post link), but the guru is: Error: 8000 0004 Task: 07803308 | 18:58 |
| mntmn | updated https://mntre.com/media/ZZ9000_info_md/ZZ9000Installer1_9.lha with missing 1600x1200 mode | 18:58 |
| gdonner | cool, thanks! | 18:58 |
| mntmn | gdonner: probably autoboot related, what is your cpu? do you have a usb stick inserted? | 18:58 |
| gdonner | I do, but not in the ZZ9000; the RapidRoad | 18:58 |
| gdonner | I'm using a 25 MHz A3640 | 18:59 |
| mntmn | yeah, i meant the zz ^^ | 18:59 |
| mntmn | ok | 18:59 |
| + RobDangerous (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f188700d4db6577c127540c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 18:59 | |
| mntmn | you could try the -nofast or -noautoboot versions of the z3 firmware | 18:59 |
| mntmn | i suspect one of them will not guru | 18:59 |
| gdonner | ok cool--will give them a try | 18:59 |
| gdonner | thx | 18:59 |
| gdonner | vid is at: http://www.gregdonner.org/transfer/A3000_guru.mp4 | 19:09 |
| gdonner | (if it's helpful; prob. not lol) | 19:09 |
| - gdonner (QUIT: ) (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 19:16 | |
| + KK (~KK@93-142-33-134.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 21:24 | |
| Jope | https://www.amigalove.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2006 distressing news from ntsc land | 21:32 |
| Jope | would have thought gdonner had complained a lot if it is so broken on ntsc | 21:32 |
| Jope | mntmn, if you would like an ntsc main osc, I can send you one | 21:33 |
| Jope | it is subtly different from a pal machine running in ntsc mode | 21:33 |
| mntmn | Jope: well... maybe it's just the 720x480 mode | 21:34 |
| mntmn | i think we had 640x480 before | 21:34 |
| mntmn | Jope: ah i see @ subtly different | 21:36 |
| mntmn | Jope: i don't see any pics in that article though of problems | 21:36 |
| mntmn | Jope: is that something i could just plug into my a2k? | 21:37 |
| mntmn | who here has an NTSC machine? | 21:39 |
| mntmn | also, how do i identify an ntsc amiga? maybe my a3000 is actually one | 21:41 |
| mntmn | because i bought it from the US | 21:41 |
| KK | wouldn't on a4000 just changing the jumper and the oscillator convert it to the ntsc one? | 21:45 |
| mntmn | yeah i thought there was a jumper in some model | 21:46 |
| mntmn | unfortunately my a4000 is broken (i think)... i can try to see if it works today | 21:46 |
| mntmn | but i bought my a3000d from chris hanson and pretty sure it was from the US, but maybe he had a pal version anyway | 21:46 |
| KK | i've bunch of 28.37516 oscillators but no 28.6something?? was it or something like that | 21:47 |
| KK | not sure about a3k | 21:48 |
| Jope | mntmn, yea ez.. shove in osc and toggle pal ntsc jumper | 21:50 |
| Jope | perhaps worth doing tests in both jumper settings wirh both oscs | 21:51 |
| apolkosnik[m] | 28.63636 | 21:53 |
| mntmn | Jope: a3000 has a pal/ntsc jumper? | 21:55 |
| mntmn | osc in my a3000 is 28.6363mhz | 21:55 |
| KK | http://www.l8r.net/technical/t-3000-jumpers.shtml | 21:56 |
| mntmn | a4000 has 28.37516 | 21:56 |
| mntmn | so my a3000 _is_ ntsc | 21:56 |
| mntmn | thanks KK | 21:56 |
| KK | i do remember tho there were some discrepancies with the above jumper list on my early a3k when i had it *shrug* | 21:58 |
| mntmn | lol found the jumper | 21:58 |
| mntmn | ok so my a3000d is fully ntsc now | 21:58 |
| KK | you could ship the PAL oscillator to the over the pond folk as well :P | 21:58 |
| KK | you could just ship the PAL oscillator to the over the pond folk as well :P | 21:58 |
| mntmn | but why | 21:59 |
| mntmn | i am developing on the NTSC machine all the time! | 21:59 |
| mntmn | i just had the jumper set to PAL | 21:59 |
| mntmn | the article is just bullshit | 21:59 |
| Jope | Ok, cool.. you can already get the combos | 22:00 |
| Jope | yeah, i wonder why they are having problems but are not working to get them to your knowledge | 22:01 |
| Jope | curious | 22:01 |
| - TuKo (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~tuko@46-126-211-54.dynamic.hispeed.ch) | 22:01 | |
| mntmn | yeah | 22:02 |
| mntmn | it might be the weird 720x480 screenmode | 22:02 |
| apolkosnik[m] | My Samsung TV doesn't like to display any 50Hz modes, only likes 60Hz | 22:05 |
| mntmn | tsk tsk! | 22:05 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Maybe that's the problem | 22:05 |
| KK | shouldn't the 800x600@60 flag work for them? | 22:05 |
| mntmn | i think that is only active for PAL | 22:06 |
| mntmn | but let me check | 22:06 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Yeah, that was the last piece of equipment I bought from Samsung, never again | 22:07 |
| KK | I'm thinking of getting an Eizo S2133, anyone has any experience? | 22:09 |
| mntmn | dunno but i have an old eizo as my main work monitor | 22:21 |
| mntmn | it is not super tolerant of weird modes though | 22:21 |
| mntmn | the LGs here are more tolerant | 22:21 |
| mntmn | for Z3, please try this alternative firmware that uses 800x600 for NTSC (not centered correctly, it's only to check if that works): http://dump.mntmn.com/BOOT.bin-20211007-ntsc800x600 | 22:21 |
| mntmn | (if you have ntsc troubles) | 22:21 |
| KK | I'm currently using an old Philips 200P and it's ok tolerance wise etc it's just that the panel is crap and suffers from retention. Got a spare panel somewhere but to lazy to exchange and see if the other panel is any better | 22:26 |
| KK | There's always something else to do :P Spent half a day today building custom SpeedyMouse firmwares for the crappy hacky amigastore.eu board version to suit my a4k and the mx anywhere 2s mouse. If anyone has trouble with that thing feel free to ping me | 22:30 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Ha... So, once I checked scan double and interlace in Picasso96Mode for 800x600, the screen wasn't duplicated horizontally | 22:33 |
| apolkosnik[m] | And went to 60 Hz from 61 | 22:33 |
| apolkosnik[m] | The Hz reading is from my monitor's info display | 22:35 |
| mntmn | apolkosnik[m]: ntsc interlace with the test fw? | 22:37 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Sorry, still on the 1.9 | 22:38 |
| mntmn | hmm then no idea what you are testing! | 22:39 |
| mntmn | ah you checked these options | 22:39 |
| mntmn | these options are meaningless i think | 22:39 |
| KK | hm... just upgraded to 1.9 z3 and my a4k is stuck in end endless reboot loop | 22:45 |
| KK | 22:48 | |
| KK | 22:48 | |
| KK | end = an* | 22:48 |
| KK | serial output -> https://ibb.co/BgFnjmv | 22:48 |
| mntmn | KK: hmmmm power issue? | 22:50 |
| mntmn | my a4000 also had a reset loop but i figured it to be the broken a4000... | 22:50 |
| KK | works fine with 1.8 | 22:51 |
| mntmn | ok strange! can you try the nofast version? | 22:52 |
| KK | ye, already on it. bloody sd card is a pain in the ass to get out. give me a few min | 22:52 |
| + gdonner (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 22:53 | |
| gdonner | @Jope: (re: would have thought gdonner had complained a lot if it is so broken on ntsc) | 22:54 |
| gdonner | @Jope: it is broken on NTSC; actually most stuff is broken :( | 22:55 |
| gdonner | The -noautoboot firmware gives me a yellow screen on cold boot, then locks up when trying to open a 1600x1200 screen (just the WB menu appears) | 22:56 |
| + KK71 (~KK@93-142-33-134.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 22:56 | |
| KK71 | same thing with z3 nofast | 22:56 |
| gdonner | the -nofastram firmware also yields the same guru as the original 1.9 firmware, and the NTSC mode is pushed to the right | 22:56 |
| mntmn | gdonner: you are on a3000? | 22:57 |
| gdonner | yes | 22:57 |
| mntmn | gdonner: can you try this one? http://dump.mntmn.com/BOOT.bin-20211007-ntsc800x600 | 22:57 |
| gdonner | so far, the most stable seems to be the original (released) 1.9 firmware and original 1.9 drivers | 22:57 |
| gdonner | sure; will try it (after dinner; will report back) | 22:58 |
| gdonner | tnx | 22:59 |
| - KK (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~KK@93-142-33-134.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 22:59 | |
| mntmn | gdonner: ah, by original you mean "neither noautoboot nor nofast"? | 23:00 |
| gdonner | yes; sorry | 23:01 |
| gdonner | i.e. it crashed once on cold boot, but after that seemed fine and stable | 23:01 |
| gdonner | FWIW? | 23:01 |
| gdonner | but will test the ntsc800x600 after dinner and let you know how it goes | 23:02 |
| KK71 | lol i lost the sd card. at first i though i maybe stuffed it into the usb port but it's not there and no way it could have fallen through into the case | 23:05 |
| KK71 | completely bizarre | 23:08 |
| KK71 | ok, found it inside the case. no idea how i managed to do that | 23:14 |
| KK71 | ah, the cutout is just big enough to slide the card above the slot and into the case | 23:15 |
| KK71 | booted fine with noautoboot fw | 23:21 |
| - trixster (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (sid451942@id-451942.ilkley.irccloud.com) | 23:24 | |
| KK71 | 1600x1200 16 bit doesnt work for me at all, 8 bit works fine | 23:24 |
| - stepan (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (sid147049@id-147049.tinside.irccloud.com) | 23:24 | |
| - Claude (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (sid304814@id-304814.lymington.irccloud.com) | 23:24 | |
| - cerv (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (sid256361@id-256361.helmsley.irccloud.com) | 23:24 | |
| mntmn | KK71: lol! | 23:26 |
| + trixster (sid451942@ilkley.irccloud.com) | 23:26 | |
| mntmn | also i managed to produce 1 bug https://twitter.com/mntmn/status/1446225024600449027?s=20 | 23:27 |
| + stepan (sid147049@5.254.36.57) | 23:27 | |
| + Claude (sid304814@lymington.irccloud.com) | 23:27 | |
| + cerv (sid256361@helmsley.irccloud.com) | 23:27 | |
| KK71 | mntmn: ok, so, with noautoboot fw it appears to work fine. i've switched again to the standard 1.9. when deneb is also plugged in amiga will get stuck in an endless reset loop | 23:45 |
| KK71 | when i unplug the deneb (zz is now the only card) the cold boot ends up in guru, after the soft reboot if manages to boot to wb | 23:46 |
| mntmn | KK71: but with noautoboot you don't have the guru? | 23:47 |
| KK71 | no, with noautoboot is boots straight up just fine | 23:47 |
| KK71 | i dont have any other z3 cards but will try to plug in some z2 cards now | 23:48 |
| KK71 | plugged in the repulse. same thing. endless reset loop | 23:50 |
| KK71 | repulse is z2 | 23:50 |
| mntmn | endless reset loop with autoboot version now? | 23:51 |
| KK71 | yep. if i have deneb or repulse plugged in it will end up in endless reset loop. if zz is the only card it will guru on cold boot but boot up after the soft reboot | 23:52 |
| KK71 | ks 3.2 | 23:52 |
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