| hackerdude | Yea there's something screwy. 800x600 is the only usable mode, but when a change in the screen happens (double click on something, new app launching, etc) there's a huge 5-10s wait before it draws it very slowly. | 00:04 |
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| mntmn | hmmm | 00:08 |
| mntmn | mntgfx is wrong, that's some new bug | 00:08 |
| mntmn | with newest p96 i think | 00:08 |
| mntmn | so mntgfx are the va2000 modes | 00:09 |
| mntmn | is that a 68030? try "cpu nocache" | 00:09 |
| hackerdude | Yeah, CPU Nocache says | 00:12 |
| mntmn | does that change the speed? | 00:12 |
| hackerdude | System: 68030 58882 68030-MMU FastROM (Inst: NoCache Burst) Data: Nocache Burts) | 00:13 |
| hackerdude | Nope. Same speed. | 00:13 |
| hackerdude | Rubberbanding, like dragging a window works great, it's just once I release the window and it has to redraw the window it sits | 00:13 |
| + Salrus (~Salrus@2607:fb90:ab49:93aa:1557:d7fa:2d70:3ede) | 00:14 | |
| mntmn | weird | 00:14 |
| mntmn | do you have any fastmem at the moment? | 00:15 |
| mntmn | ah yeah in z3 space right? | 00:15 |
| hackerdude | Fast has 1.2Mb available, 3.4Mb in Use | 00:16 |
| Salrus | hi, I need help I have a ECS A2000 and trying to use the ZZ9500 adapter and the A500+ firmware errors and the A2000 doesn't work with ether the adapter or the video slot (because ECS it looks) | 00:16 |
| mntmn | can you try an even smaller res, like 640x480 8 bit? | 00:16 |
| mntmn | Salrus: which firmware version? | 00:17 |
| Salrus | 1.8 | 00:17 |
| mntmn | you have a videoslot adapter too yes? | 00:17 |
| Salrus | yes | 00:17 |
| mntmn | ok try the 1.9 beta fw & drivers | 00:18 |
| mntmn | http://dump.mntmn.com/zz9000-fwpack-1_9-20210923-zorro2.zip | 00:18 |
| mntmn | (with videoslot adapter) | 00:18 |
| Salrus | ok | 00:18 |
| mntmn | i will try to publish the other versions tomorrow | 00:18 |
| hackerdude | Switching to a ZZ9000: 640x480 8 bit is super slow too. Switching to the NTSC one goes back to normal speed | 00:19 |
| Salrus | if I have a video toaster would the zz9500 adapter work or is that only for the 500 | 00:19 |
| Salrus | thanks for the help I will report back | 00:20 |
| mntmn | hackerdude: ok something's going wrong there. on the a500 with aca500 and 1230/4 it is very fast | 00:20 |
| mntmn | hackerdude: and also in a2000 with pp&s 040 | 00:20 |
| mntmn | Salrus: sorry idk that @ video toaster. the denise adapter should word with a500 fw but there is no fw 1.9 yet for a500 | 00:21 |
| hackerdude | Yea it unnerves me that Picasso86Mode still shows two. ZZ9000 and mntgfx VA2000 Fact. | 00:21 |
| mntmn | hackerdude: try to attach ZZ9000 to ZZ9000 board in the menu | 00:22 |
| mntmn | of p96mode | 00:23 |
| hackerdude | It complained about clock not matching (75 vs 100). Overrode and I'm rebooting now. | 00:24 |
| hackerdude | Whoops. I get output but now it's like the horizontal is broken :) | 00:26 |
| mntmn | huh | 00:26 |
| mntmn | clock not matching stuff you can ignore, means nothing | 00:26 |
| - Salrus (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~Salrus@2607:fb90:ab49:93aa:1557:d7fa:2d70:3ede) | 00:27 | |
| mntmn | what do you mean by horizontal is broken? | 00:27 |
| mntmn | shifted picture? or distorded? | 00:27 |
| mntmn | distorted | 00:27 |
| hackerdude | Nonsensible screen, as if an old analog set had the horiz turned all the way | 00:27 |
| hackerdude | Ok hold on might have been a fluke. Rebooted and it's fine now | 00:29 |
| mntmn | oh ok | 00:29 |
| mntmn | still slow i guess? | 00:30 |
| hackerdude | Yep. Still slow tho | 00:30 |
| mntmn | maybe you could do a memory speed test on the area $210000+ | 00:31 |
| mntmn | it sounds like your zorro transfer speed might be limited | 00:31 |
| hackerdude | Now the display modes do show as ZZ90000: tho | 00:31 |
| mntmn | ok good | 00:31 |
| mntmn | i forgot the name but there is a tool that can do speed test on memory addresses/areas | 00:32 |
| mntmn | if the card is at $200000 the framebuffer starts at $210000 | 00:32 |
| + Salrus (~Salrus@2607:fb90:ab49:93aa:5813:a55b:768a:207e) | 00:35 | |
| Salrus | same issue :( black screen when using ECS modes | 00:36 |
| Salrus | when using the video card slot | 00:36 |
| hackerdude | Got SSSpeed to see if it can test the memory casrds | 00:37 |
| hackerdude | Hmmm it doesn't test a whole bunch. It sort of just says the access times and you can't set an address. Chip from 858-3677 nanoseconds, fast 60 nanoseconds. Will look for another tool | 00:42 |
| + Salrus_ (~Salrus@2607:fb90:772:778e:54e8:6c01:d7eb:bba) | 00:43 | |
| Salrus_ | damn wifi | 00:43 |
| + Salrus__ (~Salrus@172.58.220.111) | 00:44 | |
| - hackerdude (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~hackerdud@184-23-212-166.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) | 00:45 | |
| - Salrus (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~Salrus@2607:fb90:ab49:93aa:5813:a55b:768a:207e) | 00:45 | |
| + hackerdude (~hackerdud@184-23-212-166.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) | 00:45 | |
| - Salrus_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~Salrus@2607:fb90:772:778e:54e8:6c01:d7eb:bba) | 00:47 | |
| + Salrus (~Salrus@69.136.102.3) | 01:05 | |
| - Salrus__ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~Salrus@172.58.220.111) | 01:08 | |
| hackerdude | A final update on this for now. Using a res of 800x600@165bit with 128 colors seems to work more or less okay. I do get a lot of background effects - parts that won't redraw, parts that leave little dots on the screen after closing windows. Redraw all seems to fix it | 01:46 |
| Salrus | well I can't get anything from HDMI I think I am going to call it a night | 02:04 |
| - Salrus (QUIT: Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.59) (~Salrus@69.136.102.3) | 02:04 | |
| - hackerdude (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~hackerdud@184-23-212-166.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net) | 02:47 | |
| - RobDangerous (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f0dd20030b534611b065b73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 03:26 | |
| apolkosnik[m] | This is interesting... On the cold boot when the memory is not showing up, the gl-frontier intro works OK, but after reboot, when the Z3 memory is there, it freezes my a4k to the point where I have to turn it off | 05:00 |
| apolkosnik[m] | When I press ctrl-amiga-amiga, the box reboots, but the screen still shows the frozen frame from frontier intro | 05:02 |
| apolkosnik[m] | This is with the latest 1.9beta fw and driver | 05:03 |
| - xet7 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~xet7@user/xet7) | 05:09 | |
| - js (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~js@2001:470:69fc:105::232) | 05:18 | |
| + xet7 (~xet7@user/xet7) | 05:22 | |
| + js (~js@2001:470:69fc:105::232) | 05:34 | |
| + RobDangerous (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f0dd200f41a7c05376d5faf.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 09:01 | |
| - xet7 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~xet7@user/xet7) | 13:26 | |
| + xet7 (~xet7@user/xet7) | 13:27 | |
| + KK (~KK@93-136-162-85.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 20:26 | |
| mntmn | haha ZZVMODE_2560x1440_30 | 20:30 |
| mntmn | does that work? we shall see... | 20:30 |
| KK | finally got my amiga working again..... a4k, 4060@50, zz + deneb + repulse, os 3.2, latest p96. also pulled out the serial to usb cable from zz out of the box so if i can be useful please shout. can also hook up jtag if required | 20:39 |
| mntmn | awesome KK | 20:50 |
| mntmn | i can confirm that the 2560x1440 mode works fine (at 30hz) | 20:50 |
| mntmn | i'm not sure if the sii chip does 4k... i'm surprised it can do QHD | 20:52 |
| pasik | well, it's easily withing hdmi 1.4 bandwidth limits | 21:36 |
| pasik | probably even hdmi 1.3 bandwidth limits as it's only 30Hz | 21:37 |
| pasik | 2560x1440 (reduced blanking) @ 60 Hz @ 8bpp RGB 4:4:4 is around ~7,2 Gbps.. so @30Hz around 3,6 Gbps only | 21:39 |
| pasik | hdmi 1.3 can do 6,75 Gbps, and hdmi 1.4 can do ~10 Gbps | 21:40 |
| mntmn | release in progress https://source.mnt.re/amiga/zz9000-firmware/-/releases/1.9 | 22:02 |
| mntmn | pasik: makes sense | 22:02 |
| KK | cool. tnx for the 1600x1200 | 22:07 |
| mntmn | yeah it was in there for a while (i think _Bnu put it in) but never included in the settings file | 22:10 |
| mntmn | same for the 2560x1440 | 22:10 |
| - KK (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~KK@93-136-162-85.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 22:41 | |
| + KK (~KK@93-136-162-85.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 22:49 | |
| apolkosnik[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (330KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ufBuMDGlGyaozjHeXElxFGfJ/PXL_20211006_205858482.jpg > | 22:59 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Guess Roadshow prioritizes upload | 23:00 |
| + mntamiga (~amiga3000@p54a43278.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 23:00 | |
| - mntamiga (QUIT: Quit: Client exiting) (~amiga3000@p54a43278.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 23:07 | |
| - KK (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~KK@93-136-162-85.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 23:35 | |
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