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| Chain|Q | ZZ9000AX finally ordered \o/ :) | 14:53 |
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| Chain|Q | if it indeed ships in December, would be a perfect birthday gift, but no pressure :P | 14:54 |
| mntmn | yay! | 14:54 |
| mntmn | the hopefully final release candidate pcb should be here soon, and i already bought 300x ADAU chips for the first batch ;) | 14:55 |
| Chain|Q | noice | 14:55 |
| mntmn | nice https://icosahedron.website/@Truck/107009455424362900 | 15:17 |
| + gdonner (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 16:34 | |
| Claude | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2vGlrcvc/1632842041067.jpg | 17:14 |
| Claude | if I press both buttons my bank account will fire a missile at me | 17:15 |
| mntmn | hahaha | 17:16 |
| mntmn | where would you buy a 4000tx? | 17:16 |
| mntmn | Claude: btw how is the chip shortage in intel fpga (altera) land? same problems like @ xilinx or is it better (i.e. can you currently buy chips?) | 17:17 |
| gdonner | @mntmn: there are A4000TXs on eBay, surprisingly (maybe a few a year?) | 17:22 |
| gdonner | I have a partially working GVP T-Rex II that I'll be selling on eBay next month | 17:24 |
| gdonner | (PLL sync issue) | 17:24 |
| mntmn | hmm | 17:33 |
| _Bnu | Probably just as bad as Xilinx. Some products no one wants may be in stock... | 17:36 |
| mntmn | aries MCV-2DB seems to be in stock for some reason | 17:38 |
| mntmn | but going to cyclone-v would mean a complete reengineering of like, everything, with little gain | 17:38 |
| mntmn | i.e. it wouldn't be any faster or better than zynq 7020 | 17:39 |
| _Bnu | Yeah, the Cyclone-V is... strange. | 17:39 |
| _Bnu | It's technically not much better than a Cyclone-III, aside from having more LEs? | 17:39 |
| mntmn | sorry i meant cyclone v SOM | 17:39 |
| mntmn | SOC | 17:39 |
| mntmn | damn it | 17:39 |
| mntmn | its cyclone 5 + arm cortex a9 | 17:40 |
| _Bnu | Maybe you can reuse old Iyonix motherboards... | 17:41 |
| _Bnu | But yeah, a lot of the cheap Altera SoCs are like single core ARM + very slow FPGA interconnect. | 17:42 |
| _Bnu | The de10-Nano has an 800MH dual core A9, I think? Cyclone V SE, but communicating between the ARM and the FPGA is mega awful for some reason. | 17:45 |
| mntmn | i see, interesting | 17:46 |
| mntmn | the thing is we might not be getting any more zynqs before like end of 2022 | 17:47 |
| mntmn | except the ones we already ordered before | 17:47 |
| mntmn | so that's kind of the end of zz9000 then for a while | 17:47 |
| Claude | mntmn: no idea about intel . intel CPLD are affected a bit. I'm a lattice man , doing lattice things | 17:47 |
| mntmn | ok i was confused then and thought you had worked with cyclone before | 17:49 |
| mntmn | lattice schmattice | 17:49 |
| mntmn | how is the ecp5 supply situation ;) | 17:49 |
| Claude | uh I suggest staying away from cyclone 5 , unless you do a test compile first and check for timings ... cyclone 5 is surprisingly slow compared to older cyclones | 17:50 |
| mntmn | > Nicht-auf-Lager-Vorlaufzeit 27 Wochen | 17:50 |
| mntmn | Claude: ok, thanks for the hint. | 17:50 |
| Claude | not sure if in general applicable , but was on [that FPGA Amiga thing] | 17:51 |
| mntmn | ah it seems to depend on the part numbers @ ecp5 | 17:51 |
| mntmn | Claude: yeah :D | 17:51 |
| mntmn | some ecp5s are in stock | 17:51 |
| Claude | yes I bought 40 ECP5U-12 recently | 17:51 |
| Claude | and have some ecp5um-85 on stock if you are desperate ;) | 17:52 |
| mntmn | :D | 17:52 |
| mntmn | i am more like considering options | 17:52 |
| Claude | efinix ? | 17:53 |
| mntmn | > Quantum compute fabric | 17:53 |
| Claude | because mainstream FPGA are boring ! imagine the fun with Chinese / English IDE crashing | 17:53 |
| Claude | there is also things like archonix , they claim to be really really fast | 17:54 |
| mntmn | wow, they are cheap | 17:55 |
| mntmn | i mean efinix | 17:56 |
| Claude | yeah | 17:56 |
| mntmn | > >20 Tbps bandwidth | 17:56 |
| mntmn | > GDDR6 memory | 17:56 |
| mntmn | lol | 17:56 |
| mntmn | > 400G and 200G Ethernet connectivity | 17:56 |
| Claude | and do a lot of pr that they can deliver even while chipageddon | 17:56 |
| mntmn | bizarre | 17:57 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Hese on Amibay sells the boards (both A4000TX, and AA3000+), and he offers assembly for some more money, but you need to source the custom chips for it | 17:58 |
| Claude | apolkosnik[m]: right , that's my plan .. | 18:00 |
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| _Bnu | 20Tbps isn't even enough for Microsoft Nibbles II. | 18:14 |
| _Bnu | Productivity software on the ZX Spectrum, maybe. | 18:18 |
| _Bnu | https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2012/02/02/snake-charmed-10-fascinating-facts-about-the-worlds-most-popular-game/ | 18:20 |
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| mntmn | tehe | 18:24 |
| apolkosnik[m] | I've got both boards, but still waiting for some parts for A4000TX, so that I can assemble it over some slow winter nights | 18:44 |
| apolkosnik[m] | I got got the AA3000+ board more recently, so I've not even bothered to order from Mouser, but I got the DSP chip for cheap on ebay | 18:47 |
| Claude | fingers crossed they are not relabeled PSD chips | 18:49 |
| _Bnu | Potato chips. | 19:22 |
| apolkosnik[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (284KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MaXxgmeivKpdtvlbkfrwquGj/PXL_20210426_212535768.jpg > | 19:27 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Now, just need some fish | 19:28 |
| mntmn | mm now i'm hungry | 19:37 |
| _Bnu | All I take picture of is bibus. | 20:38 |
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| isoriano | Buenas noches. | 23:11 |
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