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| emiespo[m] | Finally trying the new firmware (Z3), Screenmode doesn’t seem to find any ZZ mode anymore :-( but they are there in P96Mode | 00:32 |
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| apolkosnik[m] | You have to attach and save? | 00:39 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Attach the board | 00:39 |
| - KK (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~KK@93-139-197-184.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 00:40 | |
| emiespo[m] | Let me try again… my very first boot was with the old ZZ9000.card, and the screen was messed up (but RTG). I then copied the new file over —> modes lost | 00:41 |
| emiespo[m] | (Doing so as I copy files using the network itself) | 00:43 |
| emiespo[m] | So reattached settings to the ZZ9K in P96Mode, but still nothing… Let me check if they are odd for some reason | 00:44 |
| emiespo[m] | Ok the existing modes were somewhat messed up, I killed them all and recreated a new one 🤞 | 00:48 |
| emiespo[m] | So this is weird. I can test the new mode in P96Mode, but then can’t see the mode in Screenmode | 00:50 |
| emiespo[m] | Maybe some incompatible setting of the monitor driver? | 00:51 |
| + KK (~KK@93-139-197-184.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 00:53 | |
| emiespo[m] | Ok found the issue :facepalm:… an extra char ended up in the setting tooltip. However I still had to recreate the settings as the prev ones got messed up… can see a 16bit wb now :-) let me test the USB functionality | 00:55 |
| emiespo[m] | First USB stick: no life signs… does it need to be attached from cold boot? | 00:59 |
| emiespo[m] | Ok it does | 01:01 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Yes | 01:01 |
| emiespo[m] | Seems to recognise correctly a 16gb stick :-) (OS 3.9)… Let me try with a 128gb card + microsd adapter | 01:02 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Cool | 01:04 |
| emiespo[m] | Another nice improvement for the CS MK I | 01:04 |
| emiespo[m] | I can now see the rainbow “copper” effect when the Amiga is reset | 01:05 |
| emiespo[m] | It would very seldom appear with any other firmware | 01:05 |
| emiespo[m] | Possibly the internal video is switched much faster now? | 01:06 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 01:07 | |
| emiespo[m] | I could only find a 64 gig stick at hand… that didn’t work. Let me try an SD card now | 01:08 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 01:08 | |
| emiespo[m] | Wow with the SD card - still 64G - I got weird system requests with validation errors and “duplicate blocks” | 01:10 |
| emiespo[m] | And then a crash. | 01:10 |
| emiespo[m] | I’ll “stick” to 16g… I can possibly also test a 32G one quickly | 01:10 |
| emiespo[m] | So 32G seems to be the working limit, at least for me | 01:12 |
| emiespo[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (2525KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ZHTtzDmdURjafqbDvRaVUToj/ima_d37d849.jpeg > | 01:13 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Nice! | 01:14 |
| emiespo[m] | Also, this worked with a simple boot… no need to power cycle. Weird, but still cool… given the time, I don’t have… time to check what’s on that stick and sacrifice it with a format ahahah | 01:14 |
| emiespo[m] | Will do that tomorrow. The ability to see the CS MK I rainbow makes me think the scandoubler functionality is much improved now. A lot less delay… let me try launch a demo or something similar to confirm | 01:15 |
| emiespo[m] | Oh I got the same palette glitch | 01:16 |
| emiespo[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (4577KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/sLmkdgkhqmuoEYqQzOkZItfk/ima_0b2c9f8.jpeg > | 01:17 |
| emiespo[m] | This happens - from time to time - since firmware 1.3 | 01:17 |
| emiespo[m] | I should buy one of those A3000+ ahah | 01:17 |
| emiespo[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (2334KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/kGAtDmYZUVIjSFKwWOtNELyD/ima_394a704.jpeg > | 01:22 |
| emiespo[m] | Dread! Must disable 060 basically, and it works. Great job anyway mntmn. Will do more tests tomorrow! | 01:23 |
| mntmn | emiespo[m]: great testing, thanks!! | 01:25 |
| mntmn | and yes, scandoubler is now active before autoconfig | 01:25 |
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| norly | mntmn: finally, scandoubler without autoconfig. great newsz thanks!! | 05:53 |
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| trixster | i wondered if my issue with fw 1.9 might be my sd card is it stopped working completely last night! new sd now and sadly fw 1.9 (both z2 and z3) arent working. Occasionally a soft reboot will actually enable me to get into the early boot menu (!) but a boot from thereon returns quickly returns an 80000004 guru after a little disk activity and a return to it not booting. I'm using 3.1.4 on this machine by the way. I still suspect | 16:37 |
| trixster | that something in the change from fw 1.8 to 1.9 is now clashing with the prometheus firestorm pci busboard | 16:37 |
| trixster | difficult to test or confirm if noone out there has the same or similar setup and it testing 1.9 at the moment too! | 16:38 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Did you rename / remove the old ZZ9000 drivers from DEVS:? | 16:57 |
| mntmn | trixster: can you get into boot with no startup sequence? | 17:06 |
| mntmn | trixster: that could be very useful for debugging | 17:06 |
| mntmn | trixster: be sure to install "mon" in C: (https://aminet.net/package/dev/moni/mon165) and then if you manage to go to boot-with-no-startup-sequence CLI, i can give you some debug commands | 17:28 |
| mntmn | i guess i should make a CLI tool for debugging... | 17:28 |
| mntmn | or maybe a script for mon | 17:28 |
| trixster | I’ll give that a try now @mntmn | 17:35 |
| trixster | @apolkosnik[m]: yes, old drivers renamed | 17:36 |
| trixster | This seems to be an issue before s-s is invoked because I can only occasionally convince the machine to drop into early boot menu | 17:37 |
| mntmn | trixster: when you arrive in early boot, do you see zz9000 in the expansion list? | 17:42 |
| mntmn | 28014 | 17:42 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Interesting, sounds like a race condition somewhere, since things happen sometimes | 17:43 |
| mntmn | ok, now need to remember how to export the .tcl file for the updated block design... | 17:45 |
| mntmn | it could be that we can tune dtack timeout to make the fw more compatible | 18:03 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: FIY fw1.9 firmware+drivers merged to masters | 18:05 |
| trixster | yes on the handful of occasions i get into early boot then two 28014 entries are there, flagged as working. but then either boot or boot with no startup sequence will result in an 80000004 and guru, or immediate power light flashing and a system hang. i have not been able to get to early boot menu at all in the last 30 mins of testing. i removed the WarpEngine to try the motherboard 030 but that also does not work | 18:08 |
| trixster | it is worth mentioning at this stage that I like all mediator and prometheus owners still seem to need one zorro card in place to get anywhere. even with the working 1.8 fw, if i take out my prisma megamix i never get further than a yellow boot screen. it seems that zz9000 needs to have a zorro card in place in order to not conflict with zorro allocation grabbing by mediator/prometheus. whilst testing 1.9 i found this to be true | 18:10 |
| trixster | as well - if i take out the prisma then i get the yellow screen when turning the machine on | 18:10 |
| mntmn | ok thanks | 18:12 |
| mntmn | i wonder if the autoboot makes it crash for you | 18:12 |
| mntmn | i can make an FW for you without autoboot enabled | 18:12 |
| mntmn | because if your cpu maybe gets garbled instructions for the autoboot rom, that's why it crashes | 18:13 |
| trixster | id be keen to try! | 18:13 |
| mntmn | i'm building a version with fastram and autboot toggled off | 18:13 |
| trixster | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zqXK6lgu/IMG_6247.JPG | 18:14 |
| trixster | This is the computer state on the working 1.8 | 18:14 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 18:23 | |
| mntmn | voodoo 3! | 18:23 |
| trixster | yes, good for Warp3D :) | 18:23 |
| mntmn | and powerpc too? | 18:24 |
| trixster | yeah, G4 450mhz with 256MB | 18:25 |
| trixster | courtesy of Hedeon and his superb powerpc.library for pci ppc boards | 18:26 |
| mntmn | awesome | 18:26 |
| mntmn | try this http://dump.mntmn.com/BOOT.bin.z3-20210925-nofast-norom | 18:26 |
| + gdonner (~gdonner@c-98-253-93-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net) | 18:29 | |
| trixster | good news, works :) | 18:33 |
| mntmn | trixster: :O | 18:34 |
| mntmn | trixster: now the question is, is that because of the no fast ram or the no autoboot... | 18:34 |
| mntmn | trixster: does this work including RTG? | 18:34 |
| trixster | yes, RTG works fine with 1.9 zz9000.card | 18:36 |
| mntmn | ok cool | 18:36 |
| trixster | just trying ethernet now | 18:36 |
| mntmn | i will build you a version with nofast, but autoboot to cross-check | 18:37 |
| trixster | cool | 18:37 |
| trixster | does the fw i have at the moment have working ethernet? | 18:37 |
| trixster | there is stuff in the fw for that? or it's all in zz9000net.device? | 18:37 |
| trixster | ah, ok, ethernet works fine, the cable had unplugged! :D | 18:39 |
| mntmn | haha | 18:47 |
| mntmn | yeah | 18:47 |
| + KK27 (~KK@86.32.34.102) | 19:06 | |
| mntmn | trixster: cross-check version http://dump.mntmn.com/BOOT.bin.z3-20210925-nofast | 19:09 |
| trixster | great, will report in a moment. I appreciate you taking time on your saturday to do this by the way! amazing | 19:09 |
| + my_pc_is_amiga (~my_pc_is_@73.90.211.27) | 19:09 | |
| trixster | ok, this is back to the original problem, so it would appear something about the autoboot is clashing with something on the system (i assume the prometheus) | 19:12 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 19:13 | |
| trixster | still cannot get to a no startup sequence command prompt. did manage to get into early boot, and the zz9000 was shown as working (along with prometheus and the other zorro card) | 19:13 |
| trixster | tried again the motherboard 030, still not working, so i guess that means the warpengine and it's 060 isnt the issue | 19:15 |
| trixster | is there anything debug-wise i can try on the working 1.9 no autoboot no fast fw to help? | 19:16 |
| - KK27 (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~KK@86.32.34.102) | 19:18 | |
| - my_pc_is_amiga (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~my_pc_is_@73.90.211.27) | 19:27 | |
| mntmn | trixster: nothing that i can think of right now... | 19:28 |
| mntmn | trixster: do you need the z3 fast? | 19:28 |
| trixster | No, I have plenty of ram :) | 19:29 |
| mntmn | trixster: also, i should give you the zzusb.device to see if it works standalone (without being loaded from rom) | 19:29 |
| mntmn | ok | 19:29 |
| mntmn | trixster: with the noast-noram fw, you can try to put this in Devs: and see if you can communicate with it with i.e. HDInstTools http://dump.mntmn.com/zzusb.device | 19:40 |
| mntmn | nofast-noram | 19:40 |
| trixster | Will try now | 19:42 |
| trixster | it works :) | 19:50 |
| mntmn | oh that's cool then | 19:50 |
| mntmn | trixster: i also made another version that does not scan for partitions in init (not sure if relevant) http://dump.mntmn.com/zzusb.device.noauto | 19:51 |
| trixster | tried a 32GB Sandisk cruzer, and a 16GB sandisk something-or-other. it didnt work with a usb2 4GB teamgroup stick | 19:51 |
| mntmn | ok, interesting | 19:51 |
| mntmn | alright, gonna go home now | 19:51 |
| mntmn | thanks for all the testing! | 19:51 |
| trixster | the 4GB stick did not work with zzusbstorage.device either | 19:51 |
| trixster | no problem, thanks for the help this afternoon! | 19:52 |
| mntmn | ok, good to know! | 19:52 |
| trixster | it would be really interesting to see what the issue with the autoboot rom is! | 19:52 |
| trixster | but i guess it needs more ppl to report issues | 19:52 |
| trixster | it usb hot swapping working? | 19:54 |
| + KK37 (~KK@86.32.34.102) | 20:11 | |
| - KK37 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~KK@86.32.34.102) | 20:13 | |
| mntmn | trixster: nope, still needs reset | 20:13 |
| mntmn | but i think i can get it working soon | 20:13 |
| trixster | cool | 20:28 |
| trixster | New zznet.device seems quicker than the older one. With the old one I found that ftp would stop half way through transferring large files, so had to use an smb share to xfer stuff. I will try this new zznet with large files and ftp | 20:32 |
| - KK (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~KK@93-139-134-188.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 20:56 | |
| mntmn | interesting. | 21:15 |
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| + WoC (woc@2603-8080-cd40-00c6-eaaf-8a29-4225-dc1f.res6.spectrum.com) | 21:25 | |
| emiespo[m] | Hi! I have something more to report… was trying to format a USB stick (16GB, one of those actually recognised by HDToolBox)… it gets stuck when I try to partition it. Ie mouse becomes busy and doesn’t come back. | 21:31 |
| emiespo[m] | However it does something as after a reboot I could see the standard 4 partitions created by HTB… now I tried again, it got stuck again. Accidentally clicked on one of the partition icons, and this happened: | 21:33 |
| emiespo[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (5733KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/RznQzIQhyyauyhyPCVzOxLeg/ima_0edafda.jpeg > | 21:33 |
| emiespo[m] | Btw can you see my pictures? Seems a new cool function of Element. | 21:34 |
| mntmn | yes, pictures work! | 21:38 |
| mntmn | eeek @ that effect | 21:38 |
| + KK (~KK@93-139-134-188.adsl.net.t-com.hr) | 21:57 | |
| emiespo[m] | <mntmn> "eeek @ that effect" <- Makes me think that something goes haywire? Like HTB trashing memory due to some invalid values reported? | 22:10 |
| mntmn | sounds about right emiespo[m] | 22:11 |
| emiespo[m] | Oh indeed! It’s allocating memory non stop | 22:11 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Which Kickstart version is it running? | 22:12 |
| mntmn | otoh the usb buffer is always in the same place | 22:12 |
| emiespo[m] | Can see the RAM down from 400 mb to 150 in like 15 seconds | 22:12 |
| mntmn | wow ok | 22:12 |
| mntmn | but probably its trashing amiga ram | 22:12 |
| mntmn | yeah | 22:12 |
| emiespo[m] | Yeah the trashing might be a side effect of running out of memory, I didn’t notice (and didn’t take a picture) earlier | 22:13 |
| emiespo[m] | apolkosnik[m]: A modified 1mb ROM with 3.9 | 22:13 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Thanks | 22:14 |
| mntmn | ok | 22:14 |
| emiespo[m] | Oh weird… after running out of memory HTB just released everything (including the mouse pointer) and back to the interface selection screen ahah | 22:14 |
| mntmn | lol | 22:14 |
| emiespo[m] | Well written ahah. The pendrive is a Verbatim 16G, reported as 14,9 GB in HDTB | 22:15 |
| mntmn | that sounds ok | 22:16 |
| mntmn | the usual advertising in 1000s of bytes... | 22:17 |
| emiespo[m] | Yes. The other interesting thing is that some sticks won’t work (this type of drive is unsupported), or break the FS (with one of 64GB). | 22:18 |
| mntmn | mhm mhm! | 22:18 |
| emiespo[m] | Btw despite not being able to go to the partition page, I can see the raw partitions and format them | 22:19 |
| mntmn | funky | 22:19 |
| emiespo[m] | Even if I didn’t save, that is… 4 parts of roughly 3800mb. I’ll try to format one now | 22:20 |
| emiespo[m] | Format seems to have worked | 22:22 |
| emiespo[m] | Now copying files…got the palette glitch again. I wonder if it’s also due to my “old” P96 (3.01 or something). | 22:23 |
| emiespo[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (5034KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KjHmAixVJhfxxxDEFLiKRnMG/ima_032e5bd.jpeg > | 22:23 |
| emiespo[m] | Uh ho… checksum error :-( | 22:25 |
| emiespo[m] | In block disk 1.997.309 | 22:25 |
| emiespo[m] | And finally the partition process crashed | 22:26 |
| mntmn | what's the filesystem? | 22:26 |
| emiespo[m] | Trying with FFS | 22:26 |
| mntmn | ok | 22:26 |
| emiespo[m] | Will try with PFS now | 22:26 |
| mntmn | ok | 22:27 |
| emiespo[m] | Reboot -> partitions are gone 🤷♂️ | 22:28 |
| emiespo[m] | Oh now I get the error I get with a few other sticks: “HdTB can’t handle this type of drive” | 22:29 |
| emiespo[m] | Let me try to reformat it MBR and try again | 22:30 |
| mntmn | shouldn't be mbr | 22:40 |
| emiespo[m] | Yes, but it was that earlier. I reformatted it to mbr under MacOS and now HDTB sees it again | 22:46 |
| mntmn | weird | 22:46 |
| emiespo[m] | Just trying to report as much information as possible :-) doesn’t have to necessarily make sense | 22:46 |
| mntmn | yeah that's good | 22:47 |
| mntmn | i appreciate it | 22:47 |
| emiespo[m] | Np! So back to step 2: rebooting (can’t access the partition map) but it should’ve created the 4 partitions now | 22:48 |
| emiespo[m] | Oh weird I only see 3 of them now. Still 3800mb 🤷♂️ and remembered I can’t really PFS format them, as I didn’t change the default FS. Let me try HDInstTool | 22:49 |
| emiespo[m] | HDIT seems to have done something… I was able to create a partition. But then I can’t see it from WB. Let me try with a partition smaller than 4GB | 22:57 |
| emiespo[m] | Oh I had to add the FS to it, forgot about that… let’s see | 22:59 |
| emiespo[m] | So HDIT seems to work, I save then reboot… but on the reboot everything is lost. As if it wouldn’t save both partitions and filesystems. | 23:04 |
| emiespo[m] | Oh HDIT allows you to format before rebooting… interesting! It picked up PFS, formatting started… but resulted in this | 23:09 |
| emiespo[m] | ACTION uploaded an image: (6680KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/XlwIYDQJwsmzrYphNJUofDjP/ima_04c2786.jpeg > | 23:10 |
| emiespo[m] | Managed to format a partition < 2G eventually. Formatted with PFS, before saving and rebooting… could even see it on the WB, but after reboot everything is gone. | 23:16 |
| emiespo[m] | My guess: something in the values read/written is misbehaving, causing a chain reaction. | 23:17 |
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