| _Bnu | Also, question... have you tried running the boot ROM thing off SD, or only through JTAG? | 00:06 |
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| mntmn | sd too | 00:15 |
| _Bnu | It almost seems like something isn't getting cleared... or something. | 00:18 |
| _Bnu | Do I need to change anything in the snake diagram. | 00:18 |
| _Bnu | Because I tried the boot ROM bin again, and then it got stuck in a reboot loop or something. It was strangle. | 00:20 |
| _Bnu | Also, this is bizarre. Playing the NTSC version of Pinball Fantasies just to check the NTSC refresh rate on PAL. | 00:29 |
| _Bnu | Super smooth, all that... and it also plays a lot less unpredictably than the PAL versions do on my A4000. | 00:29 |
| _Bnu | Is my IDE terminator NTSC and messing with everything in the computer... | 00:29 |
| + RobDangerous (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f3e1c002d0ccd643d9ce569.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 00:30 | |
| _Bnu | Of course, the NTSC version of Pinball Fantasies is still creepy... | 00:32 |
| _Bnu | Yeah holy shit. Removing the IDE terminator fixed the RTC. | 00:38 |
| _Bnu | But it doesn't fix the 68060-screwed physics in Pinball Fantasies PAL, or Pinball Illusions, haha. | 00:42 |
| _Bnu | I guess this IDE terminator has a horribly wrong resistor in it or something. | 00:43 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: no snakes design change needed. | 01:04 |
| _Bnu | That's impossible... we can't have no snakes... | 01:06 |
| _Bnu | Aaahh, it's 1AM. Time to slep. | 01:09 |
| mntmn | rest for the wicked | 01:21 |
| mntmn | good night! | 01:22 |
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| isoriano_ | Good morning folks. | 11:00 |
| _Bnu | Mornin' | 11:49 |
| + RobDangerous (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f3e1c0008539732c57d4277.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 12:14 | |
| + TadeusTaD (tadeustad@fulu.psifactor.pl) | 12:40 | |
| _Bnu | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463636156287025152/873515962626891796/20210807_124017.jpg | 12:52 |
| _Bnu | Incredibly sophisticated Kryoflux setup, complete with painkillers for the headache you get from listening to the drive motor. | 12:52 |
| mntmn | perfect | 13:17 |
| _Bnu | Also, the new Zool game is fake because there won't be an Amiga version of it. | 13:47 |
| RobDangerous | Well, it's more likely than a port of Zool 3D - which released as Ninjabread Man 15 years ago. | 14:43 |
| _Bnu | What do I do today... aside from complain about Pinball Illusions not working properly on 68060... | 17:42 |
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| + WoC (woc@2603-8080-cd40-00c6-eaaf-8a29-4225-dc1f.res6.spectrum.com) | 18:03 | |
| RobDangerous | Recap your CD32. | 18:03 |
| _Bnu | Sorry, no can do. | 18:05 |
| RobDangerous | I don't see an open issue about your problem on http://mantis.whdload.de by the way. | 18:05 |
| _Bnu | If I could, I would. | 18:06 |
| _Bnu | Which one? | 18:07 |
| RobDangerous | The one about Pinball Illusions not working properly on 68060. | 18:08 |
| _Bnu | Well, I don't see why they'd care. | 18:08 |
| RobDangerous | They usually do care. Might take a few years but they do care. And when I reported an audio problem with Monkey Island on my A4000, they fixed it in I think about two weeks. | 18:09 |
| _Bnu | Well I mean, what if it only happens on a CS MkII 060? | 18:11 |
| RobDangerous | Correction - I didn't even report it, I just confirmed and tested. | 18:12 |
| RobDangerous | Then, nobody will ever know until it is reported and other people can have a look. Can't test it myself because I would never notice when something's wrong with a pinball game. | 18:13 |
| _Bnu | Uhh. | 18:13 |
| _Bnu | I mean. | 18:13 |
| _Bnu | I would be very surprised if you couldn't tell something was wrong with this, let me get the video. | 18:13 |
| RobDangerous | ok, you tell me how to test, I'll test and then we put everything we found out in the bug tracker. | 18:14 |
| RobDangerous | And in just ten years you'll be able to play it just fine. | 18:14 |
| _Bnu | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789807768554831902/870653730381529118/2021-07-30_15-05-34.mp4 | 18:14 |
| _Bnu | And yeah, I know WHDLoad and the slave isn't up to date. | 18:15 |
| RobDangerous | So the music is the problem? | 18:15 |
| _Bnu | No, the entire thing runs way too fast, and the game doesn't work properly. | 18:15 |
| RobDangerous | Gameplay looks fine to me, the pinball noob. | 18:16 |
| _Bnu | ACTION shrugs | 18:16 |
| _Bnu | Then it's probably okay. | 18:16 |
| RobDangerous | So just everything is too fast? | 18:16 |
| _Bnu | I guess so! | 18:17 |
| _Bnu | I mean, I'm fine with it either way. | 18:17 |
| RobDangerous | ok, I'll test it in UAE and on my Amiga tomorrow and then we can report it. | 18:17 |
| _Bnu | I won't mention it again if WHDLoad is an important project to you, it certainly isn't important enough to me that it works properly on my A4000. | 18:17 |
| _Bnu | *that it must work properly | 18:17 |
| RobDangerous | WHDLoad is important to me. And just in general it's important me that problems with whatever project get reported to that project. Always super frustrating to me with my own projects when problems are known but nobody bothers entering them in my bug-tracker. | 18:19 |
| _Bnu | Sure, but if it works properly for you, you should just leave it be. | 18:19 |
| _Bnu | There's no point in fixing something that's broken on one machine with a CPU that most Amigas don't even have. | 18:20 |
| RobDangerous | Nope. I will break into your house and steal your Amiga so I can write a proper report. Then sneak the Amiga back into your house the following night. | 18:20 |
| _Bnu | So if it works for everyone else, I'm perfectly fine with that. | 18:20 |
| RobDangerous | Plenty of people have a 68060. | 18:21 |
| _Bnu | Sure. Plenty of people have a 2080 Ti as well. | 18:21 |
| _Bnu | But it's still just a tiny percentage of all the users. | 18:21 |
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| + WoC (woc@2603-8080-cd40-00c6-eaaf-8a29-4225-dc1f.res6.spectrum.com) | 18:21 | |
| RobDangerous | And we sure fix issues on the 2080Ti when we get bug reports about it at my job. | 18:21 |
| RobDangerous | And the whdload teams usually fixes 060 problems as well. | 18:22 |
| RobDangerous | Because bugs are here to be fixed. | 18:23 |
| _Bnu | How do we know it's an 060 problem though, and not a CS MkII problem? And that it has anything to do with WHDLoad? | 18:42 |
| _Bnu | I have to go to the grocery store, but I'll try the regular disk version of Pinball Illusions when I get back. | 18:43 |
| _Bnu | Actually, it's August now, so the grocery store closes at 5, not 7... | 18:52 |
| _Bnu | So I'm already back... | 18:52 |
| _Bnu | Yeah, non-WHDLoad is screwed as well, so it has nothing to do with WHDLoad to begin with. | 18:59 |
| _Bnu | No point in making a problem report about that. | 18:59 |
| _Bnu | But just to clarify, while it's probably already apparent that I'm not a hardware person, I'm no software engineer either. I translate and letter comics for a living. | 19:01 |
| _Bnu | I just happen to like coding some random crap now and then, and I know a fair bit about 2D graphics. | 19:02 |
| - RobDangerous (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f3e1c0008539732c57d4277.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 19:13 | |
| _Bnu | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789807768554831902/873616535447547904/2021-08-07_19-19-44.mp4 | 19:20 |
| + RobDangerous (~Thunderbi@p200300ec8f3e1c0008539732c57d4277.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 19:51 | |
| RobDangerous | whdload is about making games installable and about fixing bugs in the original games that prevent them from running correctly on different, especially higher spec Amigas. So this is definitely something to report to them. | 19:54 |
| RobDangerous | And you are doing rather fancy software things for not being a software engineer. Wasn't apparent to me at all, quite the opposite. | 19:55 |
| RobDangerous | But for some reason you are afraid of writing bug reports. Very curious. | 19:55 |
| _Bnu | In general I do not want to get involved in software development with bug trackers and strict coding style guidelines and all those things. | 20:00 |
| _Bnu | I tried working as a software engineer for a while, for an SF startup and later for NZXT. It's not for me. | 20:01 |
| _Bnu | I quit that job after I got out of the hospital having removed my gall bladder. | 20:01 |
| _Bnu | Because then I spent a few weeks just coding away at ZZ9000 stuff instead, and I realized just how miserable I had been at NZXT, particularly writing Rust code. | 20:02 |
| RobDangerous | Oh wow, some bad experiences. But cool thing you found some hobby coding project you like. | 20:06 |
| RobDangerous | And you know what - if bug trackers annoy you, just drop me a line when you run into a problem with whdload and I'll take care of reporting it properly. | 20:07 |
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