| mntmn | _Bnu: ok cool | 00:06 |
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| mntmn | tomorrow i will tackle that | 00:06 |
| mntmn | i see Claude is stepping on the jit gas pedal | 00:06 |
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| _Bnu | Yeah, un/fortunately it seems like a project I can't get involved in too much so far, but I'll do what I can to help out, haha. | 00:40 |
| _Bnu | If it ends up being something I can't have any fun messing around with, I'll just keep poking around at my little Musashi remnants and play James Pond II until I die... | 00:42 |
| _Bnu | That way, maybe one day I'll actually manage to beat the game... | 00:43 |
| mntmn | i have a feeling you will end up having both engines around, because jit may run into strange corner cases | 00:48 |
| mntmn | for example, relocations are partly self modifying code... i wonder if the jit can track all of that | 00:49 |
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| _Bnu | Oh, I assume it can somehow, since UAE can run most games and software using JIT. | 07:34 |
| _Bnu | (But I know nothing about how JIT emulation works in practice.) | 07:35 |
| * Claude_ -> Claude | 07:59 | |
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| mntmn | ok interesting | 09:42 |
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| Jope | cool progress on the driver | 11:06 |
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| isoriano_ | Guten Tag ... | 12:30 |
| isoriano_ | Sorry, one question is there any chance of a "free" conversion from Allegro to Kicad? | 12:35 |
| mntmn | not that i know of | 12:46 |
| mntmn | i know of converters from eagle and altium | 12:46 |
| isoriano_ | Myir provides Allegro schematics/footprints .. oh Mann . | 12:47 |
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| mntmn | isoriano_: why do you need premade footprints? | 12:50 |
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| _Bnu | Fuzzy technology. | 14:06 |
| Jope | warm + fuzzy | 14:10 |
| norly | mntmn: regarding the JIT and tracking all kinds of self modifying code. i believe that tracking that is the very point of a JIT - just in time. it should work fine :) whether it's fast is a different story ofc | 14:27 |
| _Bnu | Unlike JIST, which is Just In Smol Time. It only works for a short while. | 14:47 |
| _Bnu | There's of course also ZJIT, or Zero JIT, which is what the PiStorm currently uses... | 15:32 |
| mntmn | ZISC | 15:33 |
| mntmn | a computer that does not take any instructions | 15:33 |
| mntmn | it just does what it wants | 15:33 |
| Jope | cat computer ^_^ | 15:36 |
| mntmn | haha yeah | 15:38 |
| mntmn | hmm i'm looking at the clock, it might be amiga time | 15:38 |
| _Bnu | It is obviously hamburger time... | 16:35 |
| mntmn | unfortunately i have already eaten | 16:47 |
| mntmn | where was i? partitions! | 16:48 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: i can show you lolcode | 16:50 |
| mntmn | debugstr(regs, "\r\nCylinders:\t"); | 16:50 |
| mntmn | debughex(regs, rdb->rdb_Cylinders); | 16:50 |
| mntmn | debugstr(regs, "\r\nHeads:\t"); | 16:50 |
| mntmn | debughex(regs, rdb->rdb_Cylinders); | 16:50 |
| mntmn | debugstr(regs, "\r\nSectors:\t"); | 16:50 |
| mntmn | debughex(regs, rdb->rdb_Cylinders); | 16:50 |
| mntmn | that's why the numbers where all the same... | 16:50 |
| _Bnu | Smol numbars. | 16:53 |
| apolkosnik[m] | Copy and smol pasta | 16:56 |
| mntmn | this is what happened | 17:05 |
| mntmn | ohhh pb_DriveName is a pascal string yes? | 17:06 |
| mntmn | i was looking at this for a smol moment: | 17:07 |
| mntmn | tmp = pb->pb_DriveName[0]; | 17:07 |
| mntmn | pb->pb_DriveName[tmp + 1] = 0x00; | 17:07 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: out of curiosity, why do you have to resolve DriveName conflicts? | 17:12 |
| mntmn | PartitionList: 0001 | 17:19 |
| mntmn | Block: 0001 | 17:19 |
| mntmn | 0000 ZZ0 | 17:19 |
| mntmn | dd75 0007 | 17:19 |
| mntmn | 0001 0000 | 17:19 |
| mntmn | No more partitions. | 17:19 |
| mntmn | looks good :3 | 17:19 |
| _Bnu | Because otherwise only one of the drives show up. | 17:28 |
| _Bnu | I was reluctant to do it initially, because people should just name their partitions properly, etc., but then everyone kept complaining until I did it. | 17:28 |
| _Bnu | It's a BSTR or whatever. | 17:28 |
| _Bnu | So it starts with a byte that's the length of the string, and then it's followed by the string. | 17:29 |
| _Bnu | So not necessarily null terminated. | 17:29 |
| mntmn | ok, thanks for explaining! | 17:30 |
| mntmn | i will leave the renaming out and will tell people to name their partitions properly ;) | 17:30 |
| mntmn | this saves precious bootrom bytes | 17:30 |
| mntmn | now i need to figure out how to fill in my DosParmPkt from rdb + partition info... | 17:31 |
| _Bnu | I think it's mostly in the partition block, unless I'm misremembering... | 17:31 |
| _Bnu | You just have to copy it and fill in the blobalVec and fsHandler thing. | 17:32 |
| _Bnu | Blobal... | 17:32 |
| mntmn | super blobal mega hyper net | 17:32 |
| mntmn | the partition block has all these Reserved fields and a few flags, and... pb_Environment[20]; | 17:33 |
| _Bnu | Blobal...! | 17:35 |
| mntmn | yeah the stuff is in the pb_Environment | 17:39 |
| mntmn | according to http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Libraries_Manual_guide/node0422.html | 17:39 |
| _Bnu | They should rename the site to blobowar. | 17:46 |
| mntmn | Block: 00000001 | 17:54 |
| mntmn | 00000000 ZZ0 | 17:54 |
| mntmn | e714dd75 00000007 | 17:54 |
| mntmn | 00000001 00000000 | 17:54 |
| mntmn | DeviceNode: 07800380 | 17:54 |
| mntmn | AddBootNode done. | 17:54 |
| mntmn | No more partitions. | 17:54 |
| mntmn | _Bnu: i agree | 17:54 |
| mntmn | lol i did not pass anything to AddBootNode, only zeroes. | 17:54 |
| mntmn | that's why nothing shows up... | 17:54 |
| _Bnu | AddBootNode is a noob if it can't even find the data... | 17:55 |
| _Bnu | AddBootNoob | 17:56 |
| mntmn | haha | 17:58 |
| mntmn | ZZ0 is there | 17:58 |
| mntmn | nice. | 17:58 |
| mntmn | it does not show up on workbench as some kind of unformatted thing though | 17:59 |
| mntmn | hdinsttools format says: Format failed: object not found | 18:00 |
| mntmn | hm mh. | 18:01 |
| mntmn | cli format says: object is not of required type. | 18:02 |
| _Bnu | Did you set the GlobalVec to -1? And is it DOS/1? | 18:04 |
| mntmn | i dit not set the blobalvec! | 18:04 |
| mntmn | it might be dos/0 | 18:04 |
| _Bnu | You have to do that, otherwise it's angry and thinks you have a BCPL-compliant GlobalVec. | 18:04 |
| mntmn | oop | 18:04 |
| mntmn | in scouts MOUNTED DEVICES list, the ZZ0: has no heads, cylinders, state or filesystem. | 18:05 |
| _Bnu | Unless you're monitoring the IOReq calls, it's hard to say why. | 18:05 |
| _Bnu | But IIRC, the ZZ9000USBStorage.device did not support TD_GETGEOMETRY? Or maybe it did. | 18:06 |
| _Bnu | Some things use the SCSI sense command and other things use TD_GETGEOMETRY. | 18:06 |
| _Bnu | But if it didn't construct a globalvec for you, everything will be wrong anyway. | 18:06 |
| _Bnu | So don't try to do anything with it if it's set to 0. | 18:06 |
| mntmn | wait, fhb_GlobalVec is something in the FileSysHeaderBlock but i'm not using that | 18:07 |
| mntmn | i am not messing with any filesystems | 18:08 |
| mntmn | i'm only using MakeDosNode() and AddBootNode() | 18:08 |
| _Bnu | Uhhh, no. | 18:08 |
| _Bnu | It's in the DeviceNode. | 18:08 |
| mntmn | NeviceDode | 18:09 |
| mntmn | lets see | 18:09 |
| mntmn | ah, that's the thing coming out of the MakeDosNode | 18:09 |
| mntmn | so i should overwrite what's in there with -1? | 18:09 |
| _Bnu | Yes. Otherwise it won't work. Unless you make a BCPL-compliant GlobalVec for the partition and point it at that. | 18:10 |
| _Bnu | Also, if you do do some file system stuff, keep in mind that dn_SegList is a BPTR. | 18:10 |
| _Bnu | So it's in longwords, not a standard APTR offset. | 18:10 |
| mntmn | it's interesting because i did not have to do that in my old assembler code stuffs | 18:11 |
| mntmn | but i will try | 18:11 |
| _Bnu | Well, no idea. I definitely had to set it to -1 for anything to work. | 18:11 |
| mntmn | lets debork this | 18:13 |
| mntmn | ok according to my debugging, GlobalVec defaults to 0 indeed | 18:16 |
| mntmn | ah the filesystem type is ffs inter | 18:18 |
| mntmn | DOS3 | 18:18 |
| _Bnu | Yeah, it always does. But that's because you're supposed to fill it in yourself. | 18:19 |
| _Bnu | Along with the segList. | 18:19 |
| mntmn | trying to change to DOS1... | 18:22 |
| mntmn | nope. big sads | 18:22 |
| mntmn | need some tool to dump the DeviceNode or whatever in amigados... | 18:24 |
| _Bnu | If you set the segList to 0, it'll try to use DOS/1 on Kick 2.0 and 3.1. | 18:25 |
| _Bnu | But if your DOS/3 partition has some weird settings or is too large for DOS/1 to handle it... | 18:25 |
| _Bnu | DOS/1 has no Direct SCSI or TD64 stuff in the file system driver that I know of at least. | 18:25 |
| mntmn | i did not implement any td64 stuffs etc | 18:26 |
| mntmn | info zz0: gives object is not of required type | 18:26 |
| _Bnu | Good... | 18:31 |
| _Bnu | I've never seen that error, unfortunately. | 18:31 |
| mntmn | ;_; | 18:32 |
| _Bnu | But yeah, as you can see all I do to the DeviceNode is set the globalvec and seglist... | 18:34 |
| mntmn | i found 1 bug and hope that's it | 18:47 |
| mntmn | i had unit number 1 in the parmpkt | 18:47 |
| mntmn | instead of 0 | 18:47 |
| mntmn | yep now ZZ0 shows up in "info" as not a dos disk | 18:49 |
| mntmn | and now it's also an icon on WB! | 18:50 |
| _Bnu | Quick, destroy it... | 18:53 |
| mntmn | :333 already formatted! | 18:54 |
| mntmn | now i need to put in that weird BootPt fragment to be able to boot it i guess | 18:54 |
| _Bnu | If you've done AddBootNode and the priority isn't set to like -255 or something, it should boot. Easiest is to just check early startup. | 18:56 |
| _Bnu | You can spot if some values are off on that screen as well. | 18:56 |
| _Bnu | AddBootNode is like AddDosNode and Enqueue in one, I just split it up in hopes of getting it to work on Kickstart 1.3... which it didn't, because there's something something whatever about the file systems on there... | 19:03 |
| mntmn | ok, it boots now, i needed to put in that dos init BootPt in the rom. | 19:26 |
| mntmn | without it, it won't boot. | 19:26 |
| _Bnu | Ah, yeah no idea about that one. I just left that in there from the example boot ROM. | 19:28 |
| mntmn | this little thing" | 19:28 |
| mntmn | https://source.mnt.re/amiga/zz9000-drivers/-/blob/gcc-test/usb-storage/boot-rom/boot.S#L5 | 19:28 |
| mntmn | yep, i wanted to see what it does. so the answer is, it makes your drive boot. | 19:28 |
| _Bnu | That's why the debug message says "Arrived at BootEntry, for some reason.", haha. | 19:28 |
| mntmn | hehe | 19:29 |
| mntmn | in before network boot... | 19:29 |
| mntmn | naja, great stuff. next steps might be TD64 and whatnot | 19:30 |
| _Bnu | Don't forget to somehow add optical drive support, because it's really easy I promise, definitely not being sarcastic or implying that it needs a completely different file system driver or command set support... | 19:35 |
| mntmn | lulz!! | 19:36 |
| mntmn | what about usb floppy though... | 19:36 |
| mntmn | btw that's probably because of ATAPI or something yeah? | 19:37 |
| mntmn | what about USB SCSI optical drives... | 19:37 |
| _Bnu | CDFS, Trackdisk by default does not support drives with different block/sector sizes on the same volume. | 19:38 |
| apolkosnik[m] | 👾 | 19:38 |
| _Bnu | So there are a bunch of CD_ETC commands matching some of the TD_ETC commands. | 19:38 |
| _Bnu | And they all require different handling. There's an example in the Amiga dev CD docs somewhere, aimed at CDTV and/or CD32. | 19:38 |
| mntmn | eep | 19:38 |
| Claude | but wouldn't direct SCSI just Pass trough to the SCSI CDROM ? | 19:38 |
| Claude | the usb ones speak indeed SCSI | 19:39 |
| mntmn | assuming that usb scsi cdroms exist... which i don't know | 19:39 |
| mntmn | ah ok! | 19:39 |
| _Bnu | I don't think so, but then you'd need to support all the SCSI commands for it. | 19:39 |
| mntmn | scsi commander | 19:39 |
| mntmn | well, good that i did not promise cdrom support | 19:39 |
| Claude | blueray ? | 19:39 |
| Claude | or at least Iomega jazz ? | 19:40 |
| _Bnu | Direct SCSI is some Trackdisk thing as well, I believe... I still have no idea how to enable it except for writing it to the partition info thing with 3.5/3.9/3.1.4 HDToolBox. | 19:40 |
| Claude | just for reference.. mmc6r02g.pdf | 19:42 |
| _Bnu | I think JAZ drives are just removable standard removable media and can't have different sector sizes per volume either. | 19:43 |
| Claude | that's the SCSI commandset for usb cd | 19:43 |
| _Bnu | Technically all the PiSCSI drives are removable, but the REMOVE/EJECT/etc. commands are just ignored. | 19:43 |
| Claude | yeah jaz is like a harddisk, was more a joke :) | 19:43 |
| mntmn | alright, i will have to nap | 19:44 |
| _Bnu | In the frog pond... | 19:44 |
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| mntmn | ok ok | 21:08 |
| mntmn | // poor man's 64... i mean 41 bit | 21:47 |
| mntmn | block = (offset >> SD_SECTOR_SHIFT) | (offset_hi << (32-SD_SECTOR_SHIFT)); | 21:47 |
| mntmn | > #define DRIVE_NEWSTYLE (0x4E535459L) /* 'NSTY' */ | 22:03 |
| mntmn | "nasty" | 22:03 |
| mntmn | borrowed the TD64/NSD stuff from piscsi ;3 | 22:09 |
| mntmn | but we have only 41 bit support right now... | 22:10 |
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| mntmn | oh interesting | 22:24 |
| mntmn | EHCI timed out on TD - token=0x800d8d80 | 22:24 |
| mntmn | usb_bulk_msg error status -2147483648 | 22:24 |
| mntmn | BBB_reset | 22:24 |
| mntmn | but it did not crash | 22:24 |
| mntmn | PFS3 was able to format a 12.6GB partition on the stick | 22:24 |
| mntmn | these errors happen from time to time when writing a lot of stuff, but it seems to recover from them still | 22:26 |
| mntmn | currently copying all my whdgames as a stress test... | 22:28 |
| + WoC (woc@2603-8080-cd40-00c6-eaaf-8a29-4225-dc1f.res6.spectrum.com) | 22:53 | |
| forcie | mntmn: there is a very good integrity check and repair tool for pfs3 but i think it is only available for morphos | 23:46 |
| forcie | (included with the os) | 23:46 |
| forcie | i also get the occasional pfs3 error but with that tool i have had 100% success in repairing all errors | 23:47 |
| forcie | i guess the 68k pfsdoctor also works | 23:48 |
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