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_BnuJope: I have no doubt you had trouble getting this PATA SATA adapter working. :D08:25
_BnuI've been testing it, and it only responds to drive query once, then you have to power cycle it.08:25
_BnuSo for an Amiga it'll in many cases boot from the hard drive, run SetPatch, reboot... and then the hard drive is gone.08:25
_BnuCache flush, why u do dis to me. ;_;08:45
_Bnuhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789807768554831902/857874153154281482/20210625_084430.jpg08:45
Jope_Bnu, damn it, so it's just as finicky for you as it is for me08:46
Jopesorry for the false hope :-/08:46
_BnuYeah I mean, it can never work, because it can't be reinitialized on a reboot.08:47
Jopeyeh, super weird08:47
JopeI wonder how the manufacturer intended it to be used08:48
Jopedoes a PC BIOS send some other command after a reset that scsi.device does not08:48
_BnuWhy would you ever reboot a PC, anyway...08:50
_BnuI mean, I'm pretty sure rebooting a PC power cycles a bunch of things, like expansion cards, disk controllers, etc.08:51
_BnuWhile the Amiga just sort of keeps running.08:51
_BnuSo yeah, if the Amiga didn't have an efficient way to reboot, it would probably work...08:52
_BnuAlso, something is really wrong with this firmware I have on the ZZ9000.08:53
_Bnuhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789807768554831902/857876596831420456/20210625_085458.jpg?width=498&height=66408:55
_BnuOh, this says 1.8, which probably means that it's not my custom one... I wonder what it is.08:56
_BnuOh well, can't keep the computer open all day.08:56
_BnuWill wait for Claude's magical extension cable arrives so I can use the working PATA SATA adapter that doesn't fit in the computer, haha.08:56
_Bnuhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789807768554831902/857872355958980648/20210625_083759.jpg08:57
_BnuJope: But thanks for sending it, it was definitely worth a try!08:57
Jopenp :-) 09:03
_Bnuhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/651914923877728267/857886104405016606/unknown.png ?! What.09:33
mntmnbtw you surely know that but there are weird PATA SSDs and also "disk on modules"10:22
mntmni use a terrible contraption to run a pata ssd on scsi in a300010:23
_BnuWell, the problem is the capacity.10:24
_BnuI want a 120GB storage device, because that's what I've had in there since... 2004? Something like that.10:24
mntmn> 128GB KingSpec 2.5-inch PATA/IDE SSD Solid State Disk (MLC Flash)10:27
mntmnor it has to be exactly 120?10:27
_BnuNo. But I don't have any 3.5" to 2.5" adapters either.10:28
_BnuLike the Kingston I was using just now (before I closed up the A4000 again) is 128GB.10:29
_BnuAnd I just restored the hard drive image onto it and it worked straight away.10:29
mntmni see.10:29
_BnuBut that PATA->SATA adapter doesn't fit (Claude is sending me an IDE extension cable for it), and the one Jope sent hates computers.10:30
mntmn"please do not use in computer"10:33
_BnuIt was very fast though, even if SysInfo didn't feel that it was.10:35
_BnuLike actual 2.7MB/sec instead of "7MB/sec".10:35
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Jopemntmn, I use those weird pata ssds14:10
Jopegave up after trying several different kinds of pata sata boards14:11
Jopea friend of mine is in the deforestation industry, and those tree harvesting machines use PCs in them.. he has a stack of old PATA SSDs and gave a few to me14:12
Jope(don't worry, in Finland the forests are replanted after they cut them down)14:12
Jopeso now my 4k has a pre-loved 64GB industrial PATA SSD. let's see how soon it fails14:13
_BnuYeah, I've seen plenty in the range of 64GB and lower, but the 120+GB ones tend to be from some Chinese seller who doesn't actually have any images of the larger capacity ones, only one of the small models.14:22
_BnuSo I still have no proof that the 128GB 3.5" ones actually exist, hahah.14:22
Jope_Bnu, what is your partitioning strategy for huge ones14:22
Jopehuge as in over 104GB14:22
Jope104GB still works as one partition in pfs3 and there is a recovery tool that also still wroks14:23
Jopebr, a man who hates several partitions per disk14:23
_BnuI dunno, I usually make a 1GB FFS Workbench drive, and then the rest PFS with three ~8GB partitions and three ~32GB partitions.14:37
Jope1GB seems to be enough for a boot drive definitely14:38
_BnuWB, Work, Bork, Borf, Hamus, Gamus, Blamus14:38
Jopewill fit all libs apps etc14:38
Jopeand one million fonts14:39
Jopewe need one million fonts14:39
_BnuIt's more like it's a safe size for FFS.14:39
Jopeyeps.. I tend to just make one huge pfs3 for the entire disk and cross my fingers14:39
Jopeno ffs14:39
_BnuI would never make a sys partition anything but FFS, though granted it doesn't really matter if you're using something like a FastATA 4000.14:40
mntmn> tree harvesting machines15:24
mntmnfunky15:24
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mntmnmoved old versions here https://mntre.com/media/ZZ9000_info_md/zz9000-firmware-archive/zz9000-firmware-archive.html17:10
mntmnwill now shutdown source.mntmn.com17:10
Claudeclosed source 18:06
mntmnnow more opener than ever!!!11218:07
Claudemay I ask , mnt / mntmn means ? 18:10
Claudemntre ? 18:11
mntmna question which is often asked, and never answered18:11
mntmnmntre is MNT Research18:11
mntmnmntmn is me18:11
mntmn(personally)18:11
Claudeheh ok 18:11
mntmnbecause i'm the mnt mn18:11
mntmnit is from an old handle i had as a kid, which was minuteman.18:12
mntmnafter the missile18:12
ClaudeACTION aims WD40 at screen18:12
mntmnlol18:12
mntmnnowadays, MNT doesn't have a meaning18:13
mntmn(yet)18:13
Claudebut a opensource ICBM would be very welcomed I guess 18:14
mntmnMany Nice Things!18:14
Claudeok thanks for explaining :) 18:14
apolkosnik[m]I thought it was like a mountain or something 18:35
apolkosnik[m]As in mountain biking 18:35
mntmnhehe18:54
_BnuMini Nibbles Turbo Research.19:04
mntmnthis!19:08

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